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miaka: nalianza mu cinquante:
c'était en cinquante neuf/ njo
nalianza ile kitabu/ bon:
naliandika tu shiku moya: ni
kusema: kwanzia leo nitaanza vie
yangu yote: paka shiku
nitakufwaka/ kama minatembea nayo:
sawa hivi nakuwa kwako/ mitarudia
ku nyumba: minaandika pa papier:
leo nalitembea: nalifika kwa
monsieur Fabian:
F: hapa sasa unafanya vile?
T: non: sasa ile kitabu ile:
F: oui/
T: ilibakia ku Kamina/ si chance:
muloko wangu anakwenda kutumika
kule: anabeba ile kitabu:
anakwenda nakye ku Kananga/
kikoapo bien/ bon: sasa shiku moya
naliandikaka minasema: mu: mu
mambo ya inchi eh?
F: mm/
T: minaona ku shiku kidogo
itakuya: Janson Sendwe ataweza
kufa peut-être: mu hii juma tu/ na
ile mambo: ilitokeaka juste
monsieur Fabian: shikudanganye:
F: mm/
T: wala shikuseme nikuelezee: na
minasagaaka/ sikusema kama niko
prophète/ tulishikia shiku mbili
banasema: Janson Sendwe banamuua/
F: banamuua/
T: eh: minasagaa kabisa/
F: mm/
T: nasagaa/
F: mm/
T: na ile papier ikoapo/ sawa vile
na uko muntu ulifunda mingi: kama
unaangaria ata ile bic naliandika
nayo: naliandika na encre: ni ya
zamani sana/ mais kwa avenir ya
pays: nitaweza kuwaza/ nitasema
mambo ya kweli ou bien ya bongo/
mais kama niko na chance:
utakwendaka kuona na mwee utasema
ni [voice trailing off]...?.../
nitapima tu/ njo minawazaka/
F: ndiyo/
T: mm/
F: bon: kama: sawa vile tulisema:
[aside] attends: Madame atafika:
tusikilizane:
T: très bien:
F: sasa: kwa sasa tunapikia:
aksanti/
T: merci mingi ...?...
F: ulitusaidia:
T: c'est ça/
still alive. Alright, [you ask who
is] my witness? It's a book. I
wrote a book. I began with it the
years '50, '59. That was when I
started this book. Fine, one day I
wrote: Starting today I am going
to begin [writing about] my whole
life, until the day I die. I would
walk around with the book, for
instance, as I visit you now, and
then go back home and write on the
paper: "Today I took a walk and
got to Mr. Fabian's."
F: Are you still doing this>
T: No, right now, this book...
F: Yes.
T: ...is back in Kamina. It
happened because my younger
brother went to work there. He
took the book along to Kananga.
That's where it is, in a good
state. Fine. So one day I wrote:
"In the affairs of the nation..."
Right?
F: Mm-hmm.
T: "I see a day will come soon
when Jason Sendwe will die,
perhaps this week already." And
that is exactly what happened, Mr.
Fabian, I am not putting you on.
F: Mm-hmm.
T: Let me tell you, I was amazed.
I am not saying I'm a prophet. But
after two days we heard that they
had killed Jason Sendwe.
F: They had killed him.
T: I was really amazed.
F: Mm-hmm.
T: I was amazed.
F: Mm-hmm.
T: And this piece of paper still
exists. You are a well-educated
person. Look at this pen I am
writing with, with ink, it is very
old. 27 But with regard to the
future of the country, I can
think. I will speak the truth, or
tell lies. But if I succeed, you
are going to see and you'll say...
?... [voice trailing off]. That's
what I think.
F: Yes.
T: Mm-hmm.
F: Fine, as we said...[aside]
wait, my wife has come, let's
agree on this.
T: Very well.
F: For now, we thank you.
T: Thanks a lot.
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