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2411:17:011 is that right?2 A. No.3 Q. 122 And in the same way with the lodgement form, there is nothing to show that the4 lodgement came, came if it did, from a Sterling transaction?11:17:135 A. No, no it's not.6 Q. 123 The -- Mr. Hughes, the exchange transaction is at 10:24 on the machine 02, it's7 the 12th transaction, and it involves somebody getting 4,119.59 pounds for8 4,000 pounds Sterling. And the lodgement transaction takes place four minutes9 later on the same machine and it's the immediately next transaction lodging11:17:5910 that sum to Mr. Ahern's account?11 A. Right.12 Q. 124 Does it follow from that, that what happened here was that 4,000 pounds13 Sterling was exchanged and the sum received was 4,119.59 pounds and that went14 into Mr. Ahern's account?11:18:2215 A. It does.16 Q. 125 Pardon?17 A. Yes.18 Q. 126 Is there any other explanation? Could there be any other explanation?19 A. I don't think so, not that I can think of.11:18:3420 Q. 127 All right. Now, if we could go back to 19400, please, for a second. You will21 see, this is the passbook, Mr. Hughes, and we were just dealing with the22 lodgement of 4,119.59 pounds. And I in fact want to go on to the next cash23 lodgement there. But there are two more lodgements, not to this account, on24 the same date that we've just dealt with on the 9th of March 1994. So I would11:19:1425 like to just divert to those for a second to complete the transaction carried26 out on the 9th of March 1994.2728 MR. MILLAR: Mr. Chairman, sorry to interrupt Mr. Murphy.2911:19:2530 But very briefly, I represent Grainne Carruth and I raised an issue earlier andPremier Captioning & Realtime Limitedwww.pcr.ie Day 839
2511:19:291 unfortunately a letter I had sent has apparently not arrived, concerning the2 address that appears on the next document which will be on screen.34 I don't know if it's been possible to facilitate me in this regard. But I was11:19:405 hoping that this address, which is Ms. Carruth's elderly mother's address could6 be omitted. And if it can't be omitted perhaps that you might direct that it7 should not be recorded.89 CHAIRMAN: Well the copy that goes up on screen can be omitted. That11:19:5210 presumably can be done. We can rise for a few minutes.1112 MR. MILLAR: The address appears I think on three or four pages that will13 appear on screen. My apologies for the late notice about this but apparently14 the letter didn't arrive here.11:20:071516 CHAIRMAN: No, no we would be happy to do that. Obviously if the17 documentation that has been circulated has the address. But can it be removed18 from the ...1911:20:1720 MR. MURPHY: Yes. If you could give me a moment, Chairman.2122 CHAIRMAN: Are there three or four documents because they could be fed through23 the machine here and put up on screen. We can rise for ten minutes.2411:20:3625 MR. MURPHY: I think it might be better, Chairman. I do have to. I can't26 skip on to something else if that's okay.2728 CHAIRMAN: Okay. We will just rise for ten minutes.2911:20:4530 MR. MURPHY: Okay.Premier Captioning & Realtime Limitedwww.pcr.ie Day 839
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Page 3: 310:38:111 withdrawal" -- I am not
Page 6 and 7: 610:43:441 was the 17th transaction
Page 8 and 9: 810:48:051 It would not have been u
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Page 12 and 13: 1210:55:061 Q. 48 I believe the fig
Page 14 and 15: 1410:58:361 A. Yep.2 Q. 65 And ther
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Page 18 and 19: 1811:06:101 the 17th transaction on
Page 20 and 21: 2011:10:121 Q. 99 Yes.2 A. And then
Page 22 and 23: 2211:13:361 A. No, no.23 CHAIRMAN:
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Page 31 and 32: 3111:51:131 JUDGE FAHERTY: It's 99
Page 33 and 34: 3311:55:531 A. And that was 11:07,
Page 35 and 36: 3512:00:101 A. It's on 02 machine.2
Page 37 and 38: 3712:05:161 A. Correct.2 Q. 245 Do
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Page 47 and 48: 4712:24:231 Q. 318 Okay. So if I co
Page 49 and 50: 4912:27:091 A. Correct.2 Q. 330 And
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Page 53 and 54: 5312:33:231 A. I would say so.2 Q.
Page 55 and 56: 5512:36:241 A. Sorry correct yes.2
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Page 59 and 60: 5912:42:091 CHAIRMAN: Yes.2 A. And
Page 61 and 62: 6112:45:231 or 15:49. It was comple
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7514:14:421 A. Yeah.2 Q. 498 Have y
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7714:17:071 MR. HOLLAND: So if tran
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8514:30:461 A. Occasionally I did.
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8914:36:231 JUDGE FAHERTY: And then
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11715:22:121 JUDGE FAHERTY: Fine.23
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12115:28:531 CHAIRMAN: It's not a s
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13115:47:0212 CHAIRMAN: Okay.34 Q.
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13315:52:511 A. It's 14 years ago.2
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13716:01:321 A. Yes.2 Q. 745 Yes. Y
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