3 4 CHAIRMAN: Good morning, Mr. Murphy. 5 - The Tribunal of ...

5012:28:541 Q. 339 Is it possible in any I way to identify anyone who exchanged foreign currency2 in your branch in 1994?3 A. Not from these.4 Q. 340 I didn't ask you about these. I just said is it possible at all?12:29:085 A. To identify. Say it again.6 Q. 341 Is it possible at all to identify anybody who changed foreign currency in your7 branch in 1994?8 A. Well I couldn't answer that question.9 Q. 342 Well the answer is quite -- you were there for 11 years up to 1994. You became12:29:2310 manager there from 1997. And are you seriously suggesting that you don't know11 the answer to that question?12 A. I am saying that I mean I don't know the -- had been you asked me to identify13 anybody who came in.14 Q. 343 Well explain --12:29:3615 A. You talking about one person or no general.16 Q. 344 No no I said to you. The question is quite simple. Is there any way in which17 the Irish Permanent could identify a person who came in and exchanged the18 Sterling for example in your branch in 1994, is there any piece of paper19 anywhere that would identify the person conducting such a transaction?12:29:5620 A. I don't think so.21 Q. 345 The answer is no, isn't that correct?22 A. I think so.23 Q. 346 I see. So how can you sit there and say on the basis of the documentation that24 you have, that Ms. Carruth transacted Sterling transactions in your branch?12:30:1225 A. Well based on the evidence.26 Q. 347 No I'm not. I'm just asking you. Have you got any direct he is evidence to27 establish that Ms. Carruth transacted any of these Sterling transactions?28 A. I formed the impression that when she was in carrying out these transactions29 that part of these lodgements were in Sterling.12:30:3230 Q. 348 Okay. Well --Premier Captioning & Realtime Limitedwww.pcr.ie Day 839