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4912:27:091 A. Correct.2 Q. 330 And just looking at the form that's on screen there. What did the Irish3 Permanent lay down by way of procedures for the completion of this type of4 form?12:27:215 A. That the currency and the value, the amount of the currency and the value be6 put forward. And then that would be put through the machine and recorded in7 the system.8 Q. 331 And that's it?9 A. Yeah.12:27:3910 Q. 332 So why did the Irish Permanent produce a form that has date, cheque details,11 drawer, payee, what's all that about?12 A. Sorry, would you repeat that please?13 Q. 333 Do you see rest of the form on the left-hand side? It has the date, cheque14 details, the drawer, payee, passport number, identification number, amount,12:28:0015 serial numbers?16 A. Right.17 Q. 334 So what's all that about, about, is none of this ever completed?18 A. Obviously not on these.19 Q. 335 But was it parts of your process that it should have been completed?12:28:1220 A. Not really because ... this one here doesn't even say it was a cheque this21 could have been cash. It didn't say whether it was cash or cheque.22 Q. 336 Okay so was there a different form for cash and cheques?23 A. No, on the right-hand side you with can see the cheque or notes. Underneath24 the amount for Sterling.12:28:3825 Q. 337 So it's the same form one way or the other?26 A. It is.27 Q. 338 I see. So is it possible for you, forgetting about a subsequent lodgement to28 any account. Is it possible for you to identify from any of these forms who29 exchanged foreign currency in your branch in 1994?12:28:5330 A. Not from those forms.Premier Captioning & Realtime Limitedwww.pcr.ie Day 839