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3411:58:271 Q. 210 All right. Yeah.2 A. And again. Sorry. It's on the -- again it's the same operative who conducted.3 Q. 211 910.4 A. 910.11:58:385 Q. 212 Yes.6 A. It's 17:01, branch 705, machine No. 2 transaction No. 52.7 Q. 213 Yes.8 A. And confirmation across on the right-hand side 50.63 pounds --9 Q. 214 Yes.11:58:5510 A. -- lodged.11 Q. 215 Just in relation to that. Is that -- I think you said that there was parity,12 Mr. Hughes. I wonder if you look at the Irish payment again?13 A. Sorry, 50.63.14 Q. 216 50.63 is what was got by the seller, is that correct?11:59:1115 A. Correct.16 Q. 217 What does the rest say, sum part what does all that mean?17 A. Sun, is sundry account and a partial cash withdrawal.18 Q. 218 All right. What does that mean?19 A. It's a partial cash withdrawal from that account 135 account was a hold all11:59:2820 account.21 Q. 219 Bank, society's account?22 A. Yes.23 Q. 220 All right. Okay. So that records somebody coming in and giving 50,000 pounds24 (sic) Sterling to the bank and the bank giving that person 50.63 pounds and the11:59:4125 operative there is?26 A. 910.27 Q. 221 910. All right. 27364, please. Sorry, Mr. Hughes, lodgement form?28 A. I beg your pardon it's a lodgement form for 50.63. Sorry, I can't read the29 date on it.12:00:1030 Q. 222 All right.Premier Captioning & Realtime Limitedwww.pcr.ie Day 839
3512:00:101 A. It's on 02 machine.2 Q. 223 Before you, to whose account?3 A. It looks like Bertie Ahern I just see 'TIE at the end.4 Q. 224 We understand it is, yes.12:00:265 A. And at the bottom all I can make is out is 02 machine, 53rd transaction, the6 account number, confirmation that 50.63 cash lodgement was made to that account7 and it was operative 910.8 Q. 225 All right. So same operative, same machine as the exchange of the 50 Sterling?9 A. Correct.12:00:4310 Q. 226 And it's the immediately next, immediate next transaction?11 A. 53, yeah.12 Q. 227 All right. And is the source of that 50.63 Irish, the 50 pounds Sterling?13 A. Based on the documentation I would say yes.14 Q. 228 All right. Have you, had you anything to do with that, with those?12:01:0015 A. No.16 Q. 229 All right. 19400 again, please. The final lodgement in relation to this17 account, Mr. Hughes, on the 28th of October 1994, a cash lodgement of I think18 3,970.19 pounds. You are having difficulty making out the ...?19 A. I'll take your word for it.12:01:5320 Q. 230 Yes. I think it will appear from the particular documents we're about to look21 at. If we could have 27296, please. Now, what is that, what does this show,22 Mr. Hughes?23 A. That's again a lodgement docket I think it's Bertie Ahern's lodged by looks24 like Ms. Carruth.12:02:2025 Q. 231 Uh-huh.26 A. And it was 3,970.19.27 Q. 232 Uh-huh.28 A. And across on the right-hand side, again the date is obscured, 02 is the29 machine, transaction 105 and then on the right-hand side confirmation of12:02:3630 3,970.19 cash lodgement was made and operative 316.Premier Captioning & Realtime Limitedwww.pcr.ie Day 839
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Page 3: 310:38:111 withdrawal" -- I am not
Page 6 and 7: 610:43:441 was the 17th transaction
Page 8 and 9: 810:48:051 It would not have been u
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Page 12 and 13: 1210:55:061 Q. 48 I believe the fig
Page 14 and 15: 1410:58:361 A. Yep.2 Q. 65 And ther
Page 16 and 17: 1611:01:561 of May 1994 of 3,518.99
Page 18 and 19: 1811:06:101 the 17th transaction on
Page 20 and 21: 2011:10:121 Q. 99 Yes.2 A. And then
Page 22 and 23: 2211:13:361 A. No, no.23 CHAIRMAN:
Page 24 and 25: 2411:17:011 is that right?2 A. No.3
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Page 31 and 32: 3111:51:131 JUDGE FAHERTY: It's 99
Page 33: 3311:55:531 A. And that was 11:07,
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Page 49 and 50: 4912:27:091 A. Correct.2 Q. 330 And
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Page 53 and 54: 5312:33:231 A. I would say so.2 Q.
Page 55 and 56: 5512:36:241 A. Sorry correct yes.2
Page 57 and 58: 5712:39:241 and you can't offer any
Page 59 and 60: 5912:42:091 CHAIRMAN: Yes.2 A. And
Page 61 and 62: 6112:45:231 or 15:49. It was comple
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Page 65 and 66: 6512:54:3212 CHAIRMAN: Well I think
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Page 75 and 76: 7514:14:421 A. Yeah.2 Q. 498 Have y
Page 77 and 78: 7714:17:071 MR. HOLLAND: So if tran
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8514:30:461 A. Occasionally I did.
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8914:36:231 JUDGE FAHERTY: And then
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10114:54:291 A. Yeah, yeah.2 Q. 603
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10314:57:171 CHAIRMAN: All right. T
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11115:11:591 CHAIRMAN: Do we have o
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11715:22:121 JUDGE FAHERTY: Fine.23
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11915:25:361 JUDGE FAHERTY: So if y
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12115:28:531 CHAIRMAN: It's not a s
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12315:32:521 "Q: And in relation to
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12515:36:541 of Mr. Ahern's was the
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12715:41:071 lodge cash to any acco
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13115:47:0212 CHAIRMAN: Okay.34 Q.
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13315:52:511 A. It's 14 years ago.2
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13716:01:321 A. Yes.2 Q. 745 Yes. Y
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