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May 31, 2013 - Phoenix Sinclair Inquiry

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B.A. CYR - DR.EX. (WALSH) MAY <strong>31</strong>, <strong>2013</strong><br />

D.L. ROUSSIN - DR.EX. (WALSH)<br />

S.E. TAYLOR - DR.EX. (WALSH)<br />

D.M. KNOL - DR.EX. (WALSH)<br />

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So their accountability is different.<br />

Like, some people<br />

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really just want numbers and some people really want the<br />

stories, you know, the parents' stories about -- and see<br />

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that as, as valuable information and that.<br />

So I think the<br />

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province is more, they're listening more to the, the<br />

participants and stuff and the workers, but I think the<br />

feds are still wanting numbers, and I've a problem with<br />

numbers because, you know, 50 people came today may look<br />

good but maybe there were 10,000 that could have come so 50<br />

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doesn't look good, you know what I mean.<br />

So you could use<br />

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those numbers any way you want to, so I have a problem with<br />

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numbers.<br />

I mean I'm accountable, totally so accountable,<br />

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it's so crazy accountable.<br />

MS. WALSH: Um-hum.<br />

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MS. KNOL:<br />

That so much of the time is spent<br />

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being accountable and doing reports and everything and then<br />

you're still dealing with a non-profit, you're dealing with<br />

staff, you don't have a million -- I got 28 staff. I'm the<br />

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executive director and I have a finance manager.<br />

That's<br />

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who takes care of the day to day, you know, staffing stuff<br />

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and everything else.<br />

Plus I do -- community comes to me<br />

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because my door is open.<br />

So, and that's the way I learn<br />

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because I want to know what's happening in all my programs<br />

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in the centre.<br />

I don't want to just be the boss over here<br />

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because that's how I think the system works.<br />

I'm the boss<br />

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