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May 31, 2013 - Phoenix Sinclair Inquiry

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B.D. MCKENZIE - DR.EX. (OLSON) MAY <strong>31</strong>, <strong>2013</strong><br />

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work, and that's generally true in the, in the child<br />

welfare system overall, but particularly for this program<br />

where there's a lot of face-to-face counseling services and<br />

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support services with families, it's doubly true.<br />

And so<br />

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that, that needs to be -- the ability to provide those<br />

services need to be there.<br />

Now, it's important to note that if you provide<br />

more intensive services at the front end of providing these<br />

services, those services, and we found evidence of this,<br />

become less frequent over time and so the intensity of<br />

services is not something that continues on forever but it<br />

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is important, particularly at the front end.<br />

And if you<br />

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take families of higher risk, the chances are you're going<br />

to -- the likelihood is you're going to need to provide<br />

services for a somewhat longer period of time than, say,<br />

three months, six months or so.<br />

Q Okay. Is the idea also that if you can get to<br />

families now, deal with the issues, get them, you know, the<br />

treatment or services or whatever it is that they need, you<br />

may prevent them from coming into contact later on and<br />

needing --<br />

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Absolutely.<br />

-- greater level of services and eventually it's<br />

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going to cost more, it's going to affect the family more,<br />

it's going to -- children are going to be worse off?<br />

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