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May 31, 2013 - Phoenix Sinclair Inquiry

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B.A. CYR - CR-EX. (GINDIN) MAY <strong>31</strong>, <strong>2013</strong><br />

D.L. ROUSSIN - CR-EX. (GINDIN)<br />

S.E. TAYLOR - CR-EX. (GINDIN)<br />

D.M. KNOL - CR-EX. (GINDIN)<br />

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families come up as high risk, and the problem with risk is<br />

it's historical and it's very difficult for families to<br />

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change their risk levels.<br />

If you are a First Nations,<br />

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Métis urban aboriginal person living in the north end in<br />

poverty with multiple children, you tend to come up on the<br />

high side of that scale and right away there is a file<br />

opened on you and then it goes through this whole triage<br />

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system.<br />

It is unfair to families to hold them up even for<br />

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a day, and that's what we seem to have forgotten in child<br />

welfare, that we're making the assumption, based on my<br />

assessment of risk on you on my little ticky box that I<br />

showed up with that you're now, your probability of future<br />

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harm is quite high.<br />

And most families I know that in my,<br />

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in my experience at ANCR and Métis was that numbers of<br />

families showed up high and there was lots of overrides on<br />

those, and that actually workers would forfeit their<br />

professional judgment because they had what I called the<br />

cover-your-butt tool and were able to take it off and say,<br />

hey look, but it said it was higher so this is why I acted<br />

this way.<br />

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MR. GINDIN:<br />

So would you agree that whatever<br />

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tools are used, there's no replacing good professional<br />

sound judgment?<br />

MS. CYR: Yes. Hence my concern about the depth<br />

and breadth of practice within child welfare.<br />

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