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B.A. CYR - CR-EX. (GINDIN) MAY <strong>31</strong>, <strong>2013</strong><br />

D.L. ROUSSIN - CR-EX. (GINDIN)<br />

S.E. TAYLOR - CR-EX. (GINDIN)<br />

D.M. KNOL - CR-EX. (GINDIN)<br />

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to us and what the family's understanding.<br />

MR. GINDIN: I see.<br />

MS. CYR: Correct.<br />

MS. TAYLOR: Um-hum.<br />

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MR. GINDIN:<br />

And that's happened enough times<br />

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that you have resorted to keeping very detailed notes of<br />

these meetings?<br />

MS. CYR: Absolutely.<br />

MR. GINDIN: All right. And I know that at some<br />

point during the, Ms. Walsh's questioning, the question of<br />

SDM tools came up, and Ms. Cyr, I noticed, maybe I was<br />

wrong, but I think I noticed your eyes rolling and it<br />

sounded like you couldn't wait to say something about that.<br />

Did I -- am I correct in noticing that?<br />

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MS. CYR:<br />

I'm not a, I'm not a huge supporter of<br />

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the SDM tools. I never have been. I've been very vocal in<br />

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standing committee on my position on the SDM tools.<br />

I was<br />

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a strong advocate for signs of safety and that practice. I<br />

would certainly recommend a paradigm shift in child, child<br />

welfare practice from very risk-based to more safety-based,<br />

strength-based, and I know that the only tool out of the<br />

SDM that's really an actuarial tool is the probability of<br />

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future harm.<br />

The rest of the tools are ticky box tools<br />

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that we fit our families into.<br />

My issue with the SDM is that a number of<br />

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