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B.A. CYR - CR-EX. (GINDIN) MAY <strong>31</strong>, <strong>2013</strong><br />

D.L. ROUSSIN - CR-EX. (GINDIN)<br />

S.E. TAYLOR - CR-EX. (GINDIN)<br />

D.M. KNOL - CR-EX. (GINDIN)<br />

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MR. GINDIN: Okay. And the reason that you --<br />

that's what I was getting at.<br />

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: Record.<br />

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MR. GINDIN:<br />

Why do you feel that you need to<br />

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record --<br />

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MS. CYR: Conversations.<br />

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MR. GINDIN:<br />

-- in fine detail the conversations<br />

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that you have with social workers?<br />

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MS. CYR:<br />

Because I've had social workers say<br />

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things in regards to the way they speak to our families.<br />

It's the context in which they speak, and they will often<br />

make decisions in those meetings and bring them back and<br />

their supervisor will either override or the program<br />

manager will override that decision, and they'll come back<br />

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and say it's never happened or they never said that.<br />

And<br />

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that's happened on several occasions.<br />

So I, in all my<br />

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experience in child welfare, is I record absolutely every<br />

conversation.<br />

MR. GINDIN: So there's a discrepancy often --<br />

MS. CYR: Yes.<br />

MR. GINDIN: -- between what families are telling<br />

you and what social workers are saying the families are<br />

saying?<br />

MS. CYR: Yeah. There's a discrepancy between<br />

what they're saying to the family and what they're saying<br />

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