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B.D. MCKENZIE - DR.EX. (OLSON) MAY <strong>31</strong>, <strong>2013</strong><br />

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block funding type program for other First Nations, do you<br />

see any problems with using that type of a, of a block<br />

funding program?<br />

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Well, I know it's, it's of interest to some and,<br />

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but -- and, and it is something that I think is worth<br />

looking at, but I would come back to certain guidelines<br />

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that have to be in place.<br />

And that would -- one of them<br />

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would be a way of ensuring that the block grant agreed to<br />

is adequate to provide for the children that need out of<br />

home care and potentially give the agency some flexibility<br />

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in how they can use surpluses.<br />

It would need to take into<br />

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consideration extraordinary factors, like for example, if a<br />

community has, is threatened by fire and all the children<br />

need to be removed from the community and this triggers<br />

extraordinary child welfare expenses, these cannot be met<br />

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within a block.<br />

Because one of the features of a block<br />

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grant is that the agency must, must manage their<br />

expenditures within that block and be responsible for any<br />

deficits. So there has to be a way of covering deficits in<br />

extraordinary circumstances that are beyond the agency's<br />

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ability to control.<br />

Given those factors, it is -- and<br />

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capacity within the agency to be able to sort of move in<br />

this direction with the community, it has potential for<br />

application in other communities.<br />

Q Okay. So you would need some strong leadership<br />

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