January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

had surprisingly quick hands. I also don't know many guys who were stronger than
Liston and Tyson and they weighted less than 220 in their prime. Ditto Ron Lyle
and Earnie Shavers. |
|3/12/03 03:27:51 PM|Mike Stevens|Amherst, Ohio||brownss@bright.net||||10|Let me
write this carefully because I recognize that everyone is entitled to their
opinion.If Max Kellerman thinks Roy Jones could beat Rocky Marciano,he is full
of it...just finished reading a good book about Marciano and have watched many
tapes of him. NO ONE trained harder or was in better shape than Rocky, he could
take a punch,THREW more punches per round than any heavyweight and NO ONE
punched harder....it was a natural gift he had...49 fights, 49 wins and 43
knockouts including two wins over Walcott, two over Charles, Archie Moore, etc.
A truly GREAT fighter during a highly competitive era...these guys actually
trained for fights and were not overblown blobs....|
|3/12/03 03:42:36 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|Following from the last post I have
to agree - Marciano was one of the fittest, hardest and cleverest champions
there was. He is not given credit for his ring brain but he certainly knew
styles and how to beat an opponent! Talking of the training, I once read a
fascianting article on how Rocky would hide himself away from the outside world
when he was in training. He went(and his trainers) as far as to not read any
newspaper articles about the fight in the weeks leading up to the match as to
reduce any negativity being fed into his midset ! That is what you call
dedication. Alot of fighters from the eighties, nineties and 00's seem to train
in burger joints or with heavy weights. Watching alot of old time 40's, 50's,
60's and 70's fights I notice how little fat the fighters carried. Especially
from the fifties. Top contenders were lean and did'nt want or need to be 250lbs.
They were lithe and fit and conditioned to combat. I recently watched a bout
between Zora Folley and Henry Cooper and both guys were in supreme condition.
They were between 185(Cooper) to 205lb(Folley)roughly and both looked great. |
|3/12/03 08:08:42 PM|Forest ward|South Carolina||joekevin@cs.com||||10|Mike
Stevens, pardon my language, but Max Kellerman no jackS..t about boxing.He
actually picked Ruiz to win the fight. The only person who knows less about
boxing is Mike Katz a broken down ex-sports writer, who peddles his garbage on
the internet.|
|3/13/03 12:29:23 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Forest, I hate
to admit it but I too picked Ruiz to win. The reason I thought so was because I
expected Ruiz to use his weight to his advantage by roughing him up agaisnt the
ropes and wearing him down. But in the actual fight, every time he got Jones
cornered, he let him move to keep the fight in the center of the ring. The
referee did break the figthers quickly but Ruiz never once tried to force Jones
back into the ropes. So Ruiz's excuse that the ref. didn't let him fight his
fight doesn't hold water. In hindsight, I see that even if Ruiz had kept the
fight away from the center of the ring, he probably still would have lost a
decision but he would have made a better account of himself. One of the aspects
that led to the downfall of Ruiz agaisnt Jones was mental. Ruiz didn't have his
uaual fire because he has been hit with hard punches before but he always fought
back hard. Against Jones, he didn't do this.|
|3/13/03 07:08:15 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|ON MAX KELLERMAN:
Max Kellerman is what I call a "flavor of the week" kind of thinker. Whomever
happens to be on top of the heap at the point in time he is asked a question is
automatically the all-time greatest in his mind. He lacks the capacity to look
at the overall picture in the context of time and is far too impressed by size
and phsique. He proves that just knowing alot of facts is not enough to draw
correct conclusions. Toughness is not something you can measure or weigh -- it
has to be seen by experienced eyes to appreciate.But I do like Max and he gave
boxing announcing a breath of fresh, young air. And I admire his obvious love
of the sport. Too many sports casters cover boxing with apologies.|