January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
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you'd bugger off. If Tyson is so great, how did Holyfield manage to<br />
humiliate him? Twice? Who did Tyson ever beat who was comparable to Ali's<br />
opponents? Or Frazier's? Have you ever watched a boxing match, or do you<br />
fake it what you pick up on these websites? Good comments on Ali's unusual<br />
training to take punches, people. No one so far has mentioned the will to<br />
survive getting hit. Marciano and La Motta both exceled at that. Most of you<br />
have never had regulation fights in the ring. In a tough fight, there will be<br />
many times when you are dazed and could go out. Ali used to talk about being in<br />
the land where crocodiles play saxophones -- this semi-conscious nether world<br />
every boxer knows. It takes strong will and determination to keep going and not<br />
let yourself slip under, right, Massimo? <strong>The</strong> urge to give up and sleep can be<br />
almost overpowering, when you are more exhausted than most human beings can<br />
imagine. Champions are strong-willed people or they don't last as champions.<br />
<strong>The</strong>re is very little significant variation between the physical elements<br />
such as skull size and thickness, etc. That's not it. Neither is a strong, thick<br />
neck. Just watch some of the great thin Mexican fighters who will not be knocked<br />
out if you hit them with a baseball bat. <strong>The</strong> power of suggestion is the main<br />
thing going on when a fighter believes he will lose, or can;t win, or cannot<br />
possibly beat a given opponent. Patterson had a bad case of this against Liston,<br />
as who wouldn't? Tyson built a career on it. So did Ali. As the mind goes, so<br />
goes the body. How come nobody ever says anything negative about <strong>Jerry</strong><br />
<strong>Quarry</strong> here? I she supposed to be some kind of saint? He was a stupid fighter<br />
and had a mean streak. He picked fights outside the ring all his life, and<br />
enjoyed beating people up. I dare anybody to admit that or deny it. If <strong>Jerry</strong><br />
hadn't been white, he would not have had the same career and neither promoters<br />
or fans would have been so interested in him. Again, koo koo, beat it. |<br />
|10/8/03 06:13:48 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Koo Koo, lots<br />
of people think that Liston was slow only because they saw him against a young<br />
Cassius Clay. Against Clay, everyone looked cumbersome. Liston certainly didn't<br />
look slow against Floyd Patterson who, I remind you, was trained by Tyson's<br />
mentor (Cus D'Amato). Patterson lasted 126 seconds in the first fight and 130<br />
seconds in the second. In that era, Liston was more feared than Tyson ever was<br />
in his prime. Although I think that Tyson would probably have beaten Liston, I<br />
don't think the result would be a 'given'. Liston was capable of intimidating<br />
Tyson, just like Holyfield did before his first fight with 'Iron Mike'. At the<br />
press conference Holyfield glared at Tyson and said, "You don't bother me one<br />
bit." Holyfield wasn't intimidated and this spooked Tyson and Holyfield won the<br />
fight before it even began. Liston was more capable of intimidating Tyson than<br />
Tyson ever was of intimidating Liston. And that brings us back to the weakness<br />
that stopped Tyson from being one of the greats: he was a mentally weak bully.<br />
(His other weakness is that he is unable to absorb punishment.) After the<br />
Douglas fight, Tyson discarded the bobbing head and body movement and thereafter<br />
he became an easy target to hit. By the way, Big Mel, cruel demean those who<br />
speak them more than the person targeted in the attack. Monuments are never<br />
built for critics. (P.S. Massimo - I enjoy your comments and your sense of<br />
humour). |<br />
|10/8/03 07:12:33 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|<strong>The</strong> huge<br />
money fights of today are making it difficult for any of the current fighters to<br />
achieve immmortal greatness. In my opinion, a guy like Tyson simply hasn't<br />
fought enough. Having one fight every 18 months to 2 years, no matter how good<br />
you are, doesn't work. Larry Holmes was a great champion because he defended<br />
the title so many times (and it didn't hurt that most of these fights were on<br />
network television for the whole world to see). Look how many times Muhammad<br />
Ali fought after winning the title (both after Liston and after Foreman). Now,<br />
managers are scared to death that having a guy fight too many times will spoil a<br />
big payday against a certain contender, so the waiting game is on all the time.<br />
It's why we never saw Lewis-Bowe, a natural fight that would have been that