January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
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as a former champ over Floyd, Ingo, Rademacher, et al than he does now? I don't<br />
think so, and we did get to see him against a great wave of talent. My point is,<br />
his not having won a belt, even against Ellis, does not take away from him.<br />
Given his popularity 1967-70, it's like he had one anyway. Floyd won it twice,<br />
and still does not rank as high as a two-time champ might otherwise rank alltime.<br />
Another fight that should have been : Frazier vs Norton. I've read that<br />
these two were friends. Too bad, would have been a key early 70's bout. Thanks.<br />
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|8/19/03 12:23:42 PM|Gerry Schultz|Ohio||jgschultz11@msn.com||||10|Also, for<br />
Steve in Jersey, if we're setting 70's versus 80's teams, here's my take: Ali<br />
over all three handily, Frazier goes 2-1 with a thriller over Holmes, but gets<br />
KO'd by Tyson, who also exposes defensive weaknesses of Foreman in beating him (<br />
remember Ron Lyle)Foreman also goes 2-1 much the same as Frazier. JQ? It's<br />
harder to call versus these three, all would be interesting matches. I'm not<br />
sure I see him over any of them ( sorry guys ), though he clearly would have<br />
chances versus Holmes and Holyfield. You might want to add Ken Norton to the<br />
70's group and a sober Riddick Bowe with Lennox Lewis, both of whom squared off<br />
in the Olympics, to the 80's team to make it an even 5-on-5. Also, for Massimo,<br />
I've read that Carnera was very afraid of killing someone and as a result did<br />
not really let it fly in his time. As for Shaq, gotta disagree. Refs are too<br />
afraid to call fouls fairly on the NBA's top meal ticket, and there are few<br />
other real centers in today''s game. He's 7-1 330lbs. , but can't lead the<br />
league in rebounds, why? I rank him about 7th/8th all-time. Want to see a real<br />
giant athlete? Find some film on Wilt Chamberlain, who might have beaten Ali if<br />
they'd met. Thanks again.|<br />
|8/19/03 01:34:57 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|Wilt might well<br />
have beaten Ali? At what ping-pong? We are saying that a man who never entered a<br />
boxing ring would have beaten a man who many believe (including myself) was the<br />
all time greatest. wow.|<br />
|8/19/03 05:34:29 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Wilt<br />
Chamberlain was an incredible athlete who was very quick and agile for a man his<br />
size. This coupled with his incredible strength made him a well rounded over<br />
all athlete. However, the only way Chamberlain could have beaten Ali was if he<br />
had dedicated himself for years to boxing. Boxing is an aquired skill and it is<br />
not something that can be picked up on a moment's notice. Chamberlain had the<br />
raw tools to make one helluva boxer if he had trained at it from an early age.<br />
Maybe the best we would ever see.I not only think Ali would have beaten<br />
Chamberlain easily, I also think our <strong>Jerry</strong> would have beaten Chamberlain. Oh<br />
what fun us <strong>Quarry</strong> fans would have had betting on <strong>Jerry</strong>. You know how the press<br />
was often down on <strong>Jerry</strong> when he was fighting and a lot of fans were negative<br />
about him too, Wilt would have been the betting favorite and we would have<br />
cleaned up beating the odds. <strong>Jerry</strong> would have chopped that giant man down to<br />
size!<strong>Jerry</strong> would have been the perfect opponent as a tune up for an Ali<br />
fight (in some of the public's eye) but Wilt would have never got the Ali fight<br />
if he fought <strong>Jerry</strong> first!|<br />
|8/19/03 05:38:55 PM|EVREN|LONDON||@||||10|I read on another website regarding<br />
the Earnie Shavers vs Jimmy Ellis bout. I wonder if anyone can verify. On the<br />
film that is widely available(the one edited by Big Fights) it shows Ellis<br />
staggering back to the corner after being kayoed by Earnie the the film cuts<br />
off. Apparently the film is cut because Ellis actually vomited over the top rope<br />
while still having his gumshield in. Bill Cayton was said to have cut the film<br />
on the original tape. A guy on the other website actually saw the film. I have<br />
never seen the complete version but I know HBO have it. Not sure if any<br />
collectors have the original version of that fight before it went through the<br />
big fights cutting room.What a devestating puncher that Shavers was.|<br />
|8/20/03 04:30:22 AM|Massimo|not the uglyest town of the<br />
wordl||34.com||||10|Kind friends, I have a lot of things to say !1) To
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