January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
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into that story of Liston tooking 5 person in the street ? I'm a Liston fan and<br />
this is very exciting to me.|<br />
|9/11/03 03:11:35 PM|Gerry Schultz|Cleveland,<br />
Ohio||jgschultz11@msn.com||||9|Massimo, I do not give Holyfield credit for<br />
beating Tyson. He deliberately headbutted him in both fights, he also got away<br />
with an amazing amount of clinching. Tyson, who is arguably boxing's all-time<br />
villain, was the champ no one wanted, Holyfield buffaloed alot of people into<br />
thinking he was the " Real Deal". But he was not a good enough boxer to beat<br />
Tyson, he had to cheat. Tyson realized no one would call a fair match for him in<br />
that second fight and took matters in his own hands ( teeth ) to defend himself.<br />
Do not agree Foreman's power was better than Tyson. If a 1973 Foreman met a 1987<br />
Tyson, the quicker Tyson would knock the defensively-poorer Foreman out.<br />
Holyfield, who won the title when a 246-pound Buster Douglas took a dive, will<br />
always be overrated to me, though he was an outstanding fighter. A match at 200<br />
lbs. between him and JQ would, to me, be a very interesting match.|<br />
|9/11/03 03:17:20 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10| MORE ON LISTON:<br />
I remember reading that Ali recently said that Liston was the scariest guy he<br />
ever fought. |<br />
|9/11/03 03:27:21<br />
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadsholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Massimo - I'll do<br />
some research and see if I can find out any more on that business with the five<br />
guys in the street. It was part of an article I read years ago about Sonny, when<br />
he "worked" for the unions. While I doubt any of the guys he took were wearing<br />
gay pride buttons, at the same time, a man with Liston's size, athletic ability,<br />
and devastating punch, could have taken them one-five, one punch each, when he<br />
landed.|<br />
|9/11/03 04:29:51 PM|Angelo|Washington,<br />
DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Roadscholarette: Your msuings on Liston remind us<br />
what a force he was. It also reaffirms Ali's greatness---handling Liston's<br />
powerful style in the first fight. Liston was the odds-on favorite and had the<br />
killer reputation, but when they got in the ring, it's funny how Clay looked so<br />
much younger, leaner, faster and even stronger. He made Sonny look like an over<br />
the hill old man, and I don't think that was the case. In a way, it reminds me,<br />
on some level, of how Buster Douglas shattered the Tyson mystique. Douglas was<br />
bigger, heavier and his jab just kept pounding on Tyson. Tyson did hurt him,<br />
but it was a bump in the road and Douglas picked back up on dismantling Tyson.<br />
It was another case of a bully meeting someone who wasn't afraid to mix it up.<br />
That Liston-Wepner match is interesting to watch. It doesn't have sound and<br />
it's an old black and white film. Looks like it was shot Super 8 or something.<br />
Wepner wasn't a quality opponent I admit---but Liston still showed that he had<br />
something left. It's amazing to me that Liston, by 1970, could still fight on<br />
that level. I never saw the Leotis Martin fight---how bad did Liston look? I<br />
wonder how a 1969-70 Liston-Frazier match would have turned out? Liston could<br />
still hit hard. |<br />
|9/11/03 04:50:48 PM|Massimo|Rome||gg||||10|RS-Thanks RS, but don't worry<br />
for Liston's story...Andre's height is more important ( ah ! ah!)! Calvin Lane<br />
is lucky that Dallas is so far from Rome...If not I 'd go there with my 5'6"<br />
128lbs giant body to smash his face ! Everybody keep saying how big Calvin Lane<br />
is... That sucker is nothing ! I'm too fast for him !Gerry-Ali' clinched<br />
often against Frazier (especially in the second fight)and Foreman and he is<br />
ranked among the best ever...<strong>The</strong>re wasn't a single moment in the two<br />
Holyfield-Tyson fights in which it seems to me Tyson could hurt Holyfield.<br />
Thanks !|<br />
|9/11/03 05:15:46 PM|Massimo|Rome||hgj||||10|Angelo-I never watched the<br />
Liston-Martin fight but i have read the comment in this site...Liston was<br />
dominating the fight, winning almost all the rounds but suddenly...Took a great<br />
one-two combination to the jaw !|