January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
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then I will agree it is the age of the bigger heavyweight. But not until<br />
then.A perfect example of skill overcoming size is when 211 pound<br />
Davaryl Williamson knocked out American Corey Sanders last year, who weighed 320<br />
pounds. Tbe other Sanders, Corrie of South Africa, by the way weighed 224<br />
pounds when he knocked out 240 pound Wladimir Klitschko to win the fringe WBO<br />
title.|<br />
|9/20/03 12:26:21 AM|KOOKOO|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||7|don't you think<br />
your being a little hardheaded kent? so all the other sports, just not<br />
boxing?i've seen umm all kent, just look at the tapes, joe frazier would be<br />
crushed trying to get inside on lennox lewis. he's not going to take lewis'<br />
punches all night, like he did with ali. i admit the golden days of the past<br />
were much more interesting, but kent you must face the facts. otherwise you are<br />
lying to yourself. FOOLFACE IF YOUR OUT THERE I WORSHIP YOU MAN, COME BACK MAN,<br />
LIKE THE RANDY NEUMAN SONG, YOU GOT A FRIEND IN ME!|<br />
|9/20/03 08:30:51 AM|Steve|N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|What's the general<br />
consesus on when Tyson's skills seem to just go out the window? I know it's<br />
commonly acceppted that he was seriously hurt by Cus DiAmmato's death.This in<br />
term of his personal life and his training and discipline.I forget when this<br />
huge personal loss took place,in relation to the Buster Douglas fight.Was he<br />
losing it all by the time of the fight,or did that beating[ and he really did<br />
take a pretty good beating],really start his slide? Was it a combonation of all<br />
the above factors ? He pretty much lost that valuable intimidation factor after<br />
that.R.S.,I do agree that the early Tyson,with his formidable hand speed and<br />
power,would have made <strong>Quarry</strong> a probable early stoppage victim.I do,however give<br />
<strong>Quarry</strong> a chance based on several observations.First,<strong>Quarry</strong>'s performance in the<br />
1st two rounds of both Frazeir fights.As you mentioned ,<strong>Quarry</strong>'s ability to<br />
change tactics,move in and out,take a punch,and his very hard counterpunching<br />
.Also, I question the quality of Tyson's opponents.At least the first,and second<br />
group on his way to meeting Hollyfeild.|<br />
|9/20/03 11:08:01 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Steve, Cus<br />
died about the time of Tyson's tenth pro fight and while it had a huge emotional<br />
effect on him, he responded by burying himself in his word, boxing, to ease his<br />
pain. So in a way Cus' death helped his career because Tyson was motivated to<br />
win the title for Cus. Tyson was also very close to Jimmy Jacobs, the<br />
man who took over as his manager, who also died around the time of his fight<br />
with Michael Spinks. This second blow triggered his emotional slide. Tyson was<br />
not close to, on personal terms, with CO manager Bill Cayton and Don King was<br />
able to use the racial card, of not trusting the white man, in this case Cayton,<br />
as well as Kevin Rooney, Tyson's trainer, to "weasel" his way into Tyson's<br />
affairs. King made sure that Tyson cut all of his ties he had left to Cus and<br />
this, along with his brief marriage to that greedy actress, who's name escapes<br />
me at the moment, planted the seeds to his downfall. <strong>The</strong> signs of decline could<br />
be seen as early as Tyson's fight with Frank Bruno, in which Tyson was rocked<br />
hard in the first couple of rounds only to bail himself out with his power in<br />
round number five. This fight happened in 1989, the year before his loss to<br />
Douglas. |<br />
|9/20/03 11:28:08<br />
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Steve -<br />
Tyson certainly beat up a lot of bums, and in face lost his title to<br />
basically a fat sparring partner-class fighter, in Buster Douglas. But his hand<br />
speed was frightening. Fast as Frazier's and Holmes's hands were, I'd put Tyson<br />
above them, and just below a young Ali. Tyson's problems always were between his<br />
ears. His madness, plus a steady diet of Golden Age heavies would have either<br />
defined him as a great, or as a physically talented heavy bag. I suspect the<br />
latter. We never got a much of a look at how Tyson could handle the distance<br />
against a hard opponent, a route he'd have had to have gone in the 60s and 70s<br />
many times. As to the <strong>Quarry</strong>-Tyson issue once more, certainly <strong>Jerry</strong> would have