January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
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fighters, and would any day over a couple of cavemen. What I think most fans<br />
find most compelling though are the skillful fighters who also reach back to the<br />
world of the Neanderthal. While timing and great athletic ability and skill<br />
enter in, many of the best contests are more ~fights~ than boxing.<br />
Have to disagree with you ,Road'ette. <strong>Jerry</strong> clearly, to me at<br />
least, was a better boxer than Joe, and his combination of<br />
aggressive counterpunching and slugging had Joe behind early in<br />
both fights.>I think <strong>Jerry</strong> was a more complete fighter than Joe (and<br />
Ali), though not better in the ring, fighting. Practice of fundamentals vs<br />
execution, IOW.<strong>Quarry</strong> did everything right fundamentally. Can anyone find a flaw<br />
in his skills? I do see Frazier as the harder puncher, and he was faster. His<br />
jooka-jooka, grinding, give a punch, bob a punch, slip a punch, whap a punch was<br />
a style like the word "boxing" sounds. Frazier rarely won early rounds (which<br />
would have been Mike Tyson's best, and probably only chance to take him). <strong>Quarry</strong><br />
forced Joe to shift into high gear in the first round of their first fight, one<br />
that <strong>Jerry</strong> won anyway. He made Joe pick it up a gear and put the<br />
less-conditioned <strong>Quarry</strong> away in fightI. A wicked body shot badly<br />
hurt <strong>Jerry</strong> in fight II, or <strong>Jerry</strong> would have had a chance to win by<br />
boxing Joe, who he hit often. >I dunno about that. By the time of the<br />
body punch, Frazier had clicked into that deadly rhythm, and it wasn't too long<br />
after that that Joe actually backed away from JQ, waiting for the uncertain Joe<br />
Louis to stop the fight, which people in the crowd were yelling for him to do.<br />
Frazier took <strong>Quarry</strong> seriously, but I think this would have always turned out, in<br />
ten times, with about the same results as Frazier-Foreman.Don't<br />
agree <strong>Jerry</strong> was better boxer<br />
than Ali, especially defensively.>Ali had better native physical talent,<br />
but not considering that, I think on a neutral checklist of what each did right<br />
and what they did wrong, <strong>Quarry</strong> would have come out ahead. He just couldn't<br />
execute on the same level Ali could. A fighter with less talent than Ali would<br />
have found himself in real trouble, and often. I do think <strong>Jerry</strong> was<br />
actually a better athlete, as<br />
his 'Superstars' performances indicate. Ali had<br />
a birth defect in his left foot, which hindered him not at all in the<br />
ring, but kept out of other sports, I believe. Guys, can you confirm<br />
this for me?>I never knew that about his foot. I read once that Knicks<br />
players were impressed by Ali's natural physical giftedness. I don't think Ali<br />
ever did anything else, though I think he would have been good at most sports he<br />
dedicated himself to to the degree that he did boxing. My husband said the same<br />
was true with Frazier (who also did nothing else, sports-wise) in the Super<br />
Stars - he darned near drowned in the pool. Didn't <strong>Jerry</strong> play other sports?<br />
Bodies build up memories, and the more things a person does, the more well<br />
rounded they become - like the old saying about learning to ride a bicycle. You<br />
never forget how.Frazier vs Shavers? Joe, no question. Shavers had the<br />
Big One, but nothing else that could have competed on a level with the vast<br />
array of things Frazier would have brought to the fight. |<br />
|9/9/03 01:48:45 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|<strong>Jerry</strong> did have<br />
some flaws, technically. He held his hands too low at times and he also stood<br />
too upright for a short fighter in some of his fights. But it is true he had<br />
more skills than most of the general public thought he had. He was not just<br />
some brawler who only could go toe to toe and hope for the best.I don't<br />
agree that Foreman would beat Frazier ten out of ten times. Joe just got caught<br />
early and he never recovered in the first fight and in the second fight Joe was<br />
a shell of his former self. To have a chance to beat Foreman, a fighter<br />
would have to hit George hard early in the fight to gain George's respect. Joe,<br />
although he did land one left hook early the fight number one, never really<br />
connected good on Foreman. Both Ali and Ron Lyle hurt George and let him know<br />
he was in for a tough fight early in their fights with George. Yes George fought