January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

attacked. He would hurt Joe for sure, Joe in the late 60's was not easy to hit
with a clean shot, Ali was one of the few to land solid combinations on him.
Mike had the uppercut to do some damage, and the hand speed to maybe knock Joe
down. And Joe was not a fast starter like Tyson so the first couple rounds would
be shaky for Frazier. But I think Joe was just too tough for Mike to beat. I'll
go along with a 7th round TKO for Frazier. Hey Steve, although Holyfield was not
a massive heavyweight he was very strong, he stood up to Bowe and Lewis, and
Rahmon all very big very strong heavies. If Evander had a true heavyweight KO
punch, he would be a lot higher on the alltime top ten list. I lived in Atlanta
for 20 years and have seen him around quite a bit, never really liked him that
much but I do respect what he did in the ring. He is one tough cookie and I
would give him a shot at any former heavy champ. He might not win, but it would
be a war. |
|8/7/02 04:04:05 PM|Steve|N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Hey Bob the rambling
man,[formerly from N.J.]I agree with you totally on Evander Hollyfield.I didn't
mean that he was a weak heavywieght,Quite the opposite.He did stand in there and
held his own against bigger guys.With Tyson however,Hollyfield seemed to be much
the stronger of the two.He stopped all of Tyson's charges cold,without backing
up very much.It seemed to me he outmuscled and moved Tyson around much more
easily than he did Bowe or Lewis.So how strong does this make Tyson? Overall
size and strenth does not allways equate with a knockout punch,example Oscar
Bonavena.That's why I feel Frazier would be able to get Tyson going backwards
after the first few very dangerous rounds. Look at the Chuvallo vs Frazier
fight.When Chavalo tried to bull Frazier into the ropes,Frazier would grap him
and spin him around ,and then hit him!|
|8/7/02 04:50:01 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Steve, you are
right about Joe Frazier's strength. Interesting story that I heard about the
Frazier/Chuvalo fight; that before the fight, the two fighters armed wrestled
and Chuvalo beat Joe both right handed and left handed. Joe was embarrased and
took it out on Chuvalo in the ring. I think what I meant about Tyson being
stronger than Frazier was his punching power and I can see Joe charging into
Tyson like he did against Foreman in their first fight and Tyson catching Joe
early before Joe was fully warmed up, like Foreman did. It was because of
styles and the fact the Joe was always a slow starter and would be vunerable to
the Tyson power early that makes me think Tyson would win by early knockout.
Jerry was also very strong for a small heavyweight. The way he threw either
Thad Spencer or Mac Foster, I can't remember which, to one side to give him a
better punching angle leading up to stopping his opponent showed how strong
Jerry was. |
|8/8/02 01:58:40 PM|Steve|N.J.||dmmsrm.comcast.net||||10|Hey Kent,that's a great
little anecdote about Frazier and Chavalo arm wrestling.That's the kind of info
I really enjoy picking up.I't seems as though a few of you guys ,Paul Drolet and
Jimmy Dorsey and yourself,have alot of good insider information.As for Tyson vs
Frazier,I think you and I will have to agree to disagree.Your right about the
possibility of Tyson getting Frazier early and cold.However,it only happened to
Frazier against one guy , The monster,known as George Forman.Forman was so much
bigger and stronger that it looked like they belonged in different weight
classes.I am of the opinion that Forman would have controlled the smaller Tyson
and battered him much as he did Frazier.Here's a question for everyone's
opinion.Is there a difference between a heavy handed puncher and a sharp,high
velocity hitter like Quarry? Who was a more effective ko artist,a Quarry or a
Forman?|
|8/8/02 05:29:46 PM|Bob Bumbera|TX||renfbera@aol.com||||10|Steve, no problem.
I'm only in Texas till Tuesday then it's back to Charlotte. George Foreman
would destroy Mike Tyson, 5 rounds tops. George was just too strong for him. A
common opponent? My old head-buddy Evander Holyfield. I read an article in SI a
loooong time ago about an arm-wrestling champ who was a sparring partner for