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January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

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known that he'd been down. In addition to having rock for a head, Ali was a<br />

master at disguising being in trouble. Even Joe admitted he wasn't 100% sure Ali<br />

wasn't playacting some in "the terrible 11th." You could see from his movements<br />

and his eyes that he was one solid shot away from a 10 count, and yet he had the<br />

presence of mind to exaggerate his movements, making Frazier think there was<br />

pretense involved.He once said that he intimately explored his<br />

sensations when he was rocked, and found that he had much more latitude for<br />

function than just staggering around in a panicked fog before falling down. He<br />

even mentioned hallucinating in the ring with Foreman.If Ali had looked<br />

like Frazier or Liston, everyone would have assumed he was a tough guy, but with<br />

his fighting style and pretty boy appearance, for a long time many people<br />

thought he was a pretender and a patsy, and hadn't "proven himself yet." As<br />

Eddie Futch said, "Underestimate his chin and his heart, and you've placed<br />

yourself in harm's way!"Ali doesn't make as many public appearances as<br />

he used to. I imagine he feels wretched, from the Parkinson's if not the<br />

reactions to the medicine he's on, plus is aware of how he comes off. I remember<br />

one stark and sad moment recently when he was on, when they had closed<br />

captioning at the bottom of the screen to let viewers know what he was saying.<br />

:-(|<br />

|10/19/03 01:25:43 PM|Massimo|Rome||6||||10|Steve-Foster vs Toney ? I<br />

think Foster would win by a convincing unanimous decision. Foster wouldn't KO<br />

Toney because James is iron chinned, but he would outboxe him. I have seen<br />

Foster in 4 fights, and he is one of the most skilfull fighters<br />

ever.Tyson with is weak mind would never have beaten the Ali' of the 3<br />

Frazier fights or the Ali' of the Foreman fight. But I think a (19-21) years old<br />

Tyson would have had a good chance against a (19-21) Clay.|<br />

|10/19/03 04:48:43 PM|steve|N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|R.S.,I read or heard<br />

somewhere that the second concussion immediatly following the first,is very<br />

often the lethal one.Such as a fighter being knocked out by a punch and then<br />

slaming his head into the canvass.Or being hit with a second or third punch<br />

after being rendered helpless.|

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