January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

But in saying all this, when he fought lyle & shavers he did look the part and
was world class no doubt but as i have said before he was to hot and cold to be
in my top 20. One more thing jimmy young should be in the
top 30!|
|5/26/02 11:23:59 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca.||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Mark, Thad
Spencer was the number one contender when Jerry fought him who also had wins
over Doug Jones (who gave Ali hell), Jack Bodell, Billy Daniels, and Amos
Lincoln; hardly household names but good figthers. Spencer seemed to self
destruct after his loss to Jsrry and he never won another fight. His win over
Terrell in the WBA tournament was an accomplishment though as Terrell still had
some life in him afterwards, going 7-3 for the rest of his career including a
win over Jose Luis Garcia, the man who gave Ken Norton his first career loss.
Mac Foster was always a very dangerous opponent who landed a right hand in the
third round on Jerry in their fight that seemed to almost take Jerry's head off
but somehow Jerry absorbed it without going down. Foster is one of the few
fighters who had all of his career wins by knockout, quite an accomplishment in
itself. Not everyone thinks Patterson won both fights agaisnt Jerry. I for one
think Jerry won both fights and although he would be considered biased because
he is Jerry's brother, James Q here thinks likewise. I mention James because he
said here before that the knockdown of Jerry by Patterson in about the sixth
round (I would have to look it up to be sure of the round) in the first fight
was a slip. I have watched the tape of the fight and it doesn't look like a
clean knockdown to me. If in fact it was a slip, it would have given Jerry the
win on the scorecards. In the second fight Patterson appears to have a slight
edge in the number of rounds won but Jerry scored two knockdowns in two seperate
rounds, which gave him the victory. The truth of the matter is Jerry's fights
with Patterson were both very close and no one had a clear edge in a lot of the
rounds in both fights. Patterson also wasn't completely through after his fights
with Jerry going 9-2 for the rest of his career including a win over Oscar
Bonevena and a close loss to Jimmy Ellis for the WBA title. Patterson's last
fight was a loss was to Muhammed Ali in 1972 in which he gave a much better
showing than he did in 1965 when he fought Ali and his back went out early in
the fight and he still bravely fought on in spite of the pain. In his second
fight with Ali, Patterson was stopped in seven rounds while still on his feet
when one of his eyes swelled shut. Buster Mathis didn't have a bad career as a
professional. He had wins over George Chuvalo and Amos Lincoln. His career
record was 30-4 and his losses were to Jerry, Muhammed Ali, Joe Frazier, and Ron
Lyle. Mathis was a good boxer with a good long jab and surprisingly good
movement for a man his size. |
|5/27/02 09:57:35 AM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|Kent, I do agree
with you on Foreman. Jerry had a better than even chance to beat him if he
could force himself not to slug with George. I know Jerry had very good boxing
skill,quick hands and, of course,had true heavyweight power in both hands. But
looking back, Jerry had more of a tendency to turn a fight into a war when maybe
he didn't have to. I saw the Lyle fight a few years after it was fought and
thought Jerry put on an almost Duran like performence against a guy who was just
as big,powerful and faster than George. It was amazing to watch. If he fought
Foreman that way he could have won. I just don't think it would turned out that
way. I would have put Jerry a little higher on the list of top 50. maybe swap
places with Baer. And Holyfield? No way he's #3. He belongs in the top ten
for sure. Move everyone else up one and put Holyfield ahead of Liston. Also, by
fighting tougher compition, Frazier belongs ahead of Liston. And who did Sonny
fight to deserve to be on the top ten list anyway? He made one defense, beat
some good fighters on his way to the title Machen, Williams and Folley. Tyson
has done more than that. It seems Sonny's glare is still as strong as ever.
Speaking of Sonny's glare, he KO's Moorer in the 8th round. Norton is too much