January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

fight more effectively backing up than either of these two fighters, who both
were good at moving into their opponents, which played right into Foreman's
strength. Another factor was money as Foreman went where the bigger money was
by taking on Ali instead of Jerry. Foreman may have thought that fighting Jerry
could at least risk somewhat his chance later of making more money agaisnt Ali.
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|4/2/03 07:05:06 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|MY TAKE ON QUARRY-
FOREMAN: I agree 100% that Jerry should have gotten a title shot after Shavers
and Lyl.e. I disagree however when people say he would have beaten Foreman. Lyle
was much slower than Foreman and Shaver's jaw did not match his power. If you
look at the tape of Quarry-Norton carefully you will see that Norton did not
just outbox Jerry, he out slugged him too. And Norton was about 1/2 the puncher
George was. I think Bonavena and Jerry would have been a much more competitive
fight. I shudder to think what George's jab would have done to the skin around
Jerry's eyes. Jerry was a very, very good one, George was a great one. And I
respect them both tremendously.|
|4/2/03 07:05:16 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|MY TAKE ON QUARRY-
FOREMAN: I agree 100% that Jerry should have gotten a title shot after Shavers
and Lyl.e. I disagree however when people say he would have beaten Foreman. Lyle
was much slower than Foreman and Shaver's jaw did not match his power. If you
look at the tape of Quarry-Norton carefully you will see that Norton did not
just outbox Jerry, he out slugged him too. And Norton was about 1/2 the puncher
George was. I think Bonavena and Jerry would have been a much more competitive
fight. I shudder to think what George's jab would have done to the skin around
Jerry's eyes. Jerry was a very, very good one, George was a great one. And I
respect them both tremendously.|
|4/2/03 09:39:13 AM|max hord|fernandina Bch,Fla||rasluc@msn.com||||10|Foreman
was really easy to hit.Most of his opponents,not all would back or stay away
from him,with good reason.However, somebody like Quarry who could really punch
hard may have had a chance against George.Remember the old Foreman was not in
that good a shape when Quarry was in his prime.The most recent George would have
been harder to beat.I'll just say this.The day Foreman took on three at one time
was pathetic.But that represented his conditioning during that era.He should be
glad one of them wasn't Quarry. |
|4/2/03 11:42:00 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|The problem with
the comparison between Foreman and Quarry is that Jerry's fans have a habit of
extrapolating three fights in Jerry's entire career (Lyle, Shavers, and Foster)
and using them as the performance norm and thus the comparison point. And they
naturally compare them to Foreman's weakest showings such as his "Foreman vs.
Five Men" stunt or the Young fight. This would be the same as comparing the
Jerry of the Norton fight or the Middleton fight (Jerry won by a quarter of a
point) to the Foreman of the Norton fight. A fair, unbiased comparison doesn't
work that way. You look at both men's complete records, the low points as well
as the highpoints. A guess using the highpoint vs. highpoint would be the Quarry
of the Lyle fight vs. the Foreman of either Frazier fight or the Norton fight.
Common opponents such as Frazier, Chuvalo, Norton, Lyle, and Ali should also be
considered. But in summary, it is misleading to compare Jerry at his best to
George as his worst. Has anyone ever asked Gil Clancy his opinion? He trained
them both. Someone should interviewe Gil and get his input.|
|4/2/03 12:33:05 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|I once read that Clancy said that
Quarry was a harder puncher! Maybe George should have given him a clump to prove
him wrong. John, you speak an awful lot of sense! I do not understand the
comment that Foreman wasn't in good shape when Jerry was in his prime - I think
that is utter rubbish. A great one vs a good one.|
|4/3/03 12:11:31 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Evren, I
respect your opinions a lot but I have to point out that you were using the
reasoning that because Frazier, Ali, and Norton beat Jerry, why would Foreman be