January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
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|7/3/02 08:28:44 AM|Joe Krause|Chicago||sadmspats@yahoo.com||||10|It has to be<br />
taken into account though Evren that Charles was really at his best at lightheavy<br />
where he had his best form. He had the weakest crop of title defenses in<br />
history and that includes Patterson. If you were to put Charles in his prime as<br />
a heavyweight then you have a fighter that never really exsisted. Charles<br />
wasn't ever in his real prime as a heavyweight. By 1948-1949 he had been in<br />
many wars with Bivins, Moore and other decent light heavies in the mid 40's. I<br />
don't think the Charles I see in early 50's film vs Louis, Walcott I,II and<br />
Marciano twice was that overly impressive. He didn't have a real big punch at<br />
heavy and I really think <strong>Jerry</strong> of '69 would have beaten Charles of '50 or '51.<br />
I would realize I would be in a minority in this opinion, most experts would<br />
agree with you Evren. |<br />
|7/3/02 11:48:47 AM|Johnny Q|New York||johnqw@yahoo.com||||10|Last night ESPNCL<br />
ran the entire Holmes v Cooney fight. I'd never seen it before, though I'd<br />
heard about it from many people over the years, including how out classed Cooney<br />
was, and how the fight was over hyped etc. What I saw was something different.<br />
I saw a close fight, up until the last couple of rounds. I saw a great fighter<br />
in Holmes, fighting a tactical fight and having a tough time with a big<br />
determined challenger. Cooney did not have the skills and experience to take<br />
the title, but he came back from a second round knockdown to stand with Holmes<br />
until the 13th round. Cooney did a lot better than the majority of Holmes other<br />
opponents. Despite what I've read, Holmes never beat Cooney up. He outboxed<br />
and outlasted Cooney, who ran out of gas. It was perhaps Holmes toughest fight<br />
next to Norton, and until he lost to Spinks. Cooney made for an exciting fight,<br />
and got bashed by the press who exploited the racial element. I was glad to see<br />
the program pointed out that Holmes and Cooney have since appeared at events<br />
together and show mutual respect.|<br />
|7/3/02 11:56:16 AM|EVREN|LONDON||@||||10|<strong>The</strong>m fights mentioned of Charles' were<br />
not I agree his most impressive but watch some of his non title encounters with<br />
Satterfield, Layne, Norkus, Reynolds etc and you see a completely different<br />
beast..a very aggressive sharpshooting fighter who was smart, real smart. In my<br />
opinion he would have been to good all round for <strong>Jerry</strong>, but then again we all<br />
see fights differently and I respect everyones opinions and thoughts greatly.|<br />
|7/3/02 12:15:29 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononide@aol.com||||10|I agreee Johnny,<br />
Cooney fought an in prime Holmes very tough and he actually would have been<br />
ahead on the judges scorecards at the time of the stoppage if not for three<br />
points being deducted for low blows, in which two of the deductions. were<br />
legitimate and one was shown on a replay to be a good body shot that was called<br />
a low blow by referee Mills Lane. It was one of Holmes toughest title defenses<br />
in which he pulled out a victory in true championship form. Holmes showed true<br />
championship heart by facing adversity and coming out on top. It was in no way<br />
an easy victory and I have new found respect for Cooney as I haven't seen the<br />
fight since it happened. After much consideration, I have to say the Ezzard<br />
Charles that split Rocky Marciano's nose and gave Rocky hell would beat our<br />
<strong>Jerry</strong> by decision. As much as I love <strong>Jerry</strong>, I have to rate him below an in<br />
prime Marciano and I think Charles would outscore him. In a fight that could<br />
have taken place for real, Holyfield wins by decision over Tucker. I think<br />
Tucker is an underrated fighter but Holyfield would outwork him over the<br />
distance but it would not be an easy fight for Holyfield. |<br />
|7/3/02 12:52:48 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA<br />
CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|I AGREE, HOLMES WAS A GREAT CHAMPION.NO<br />
OPINION ON CHARLES-QUARRY!ELLIS 4TH RANKED BY W.B.A. AT THE TIME OF HIS SHAVERS<br />
LOSS,MUST MEAN QUARRY'S LYLE WIN HAD HIM #5. THE RING MAGAZINE LIKED TO DIFFER.|<br />
|7/3/02 03:20:52 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA<br />
CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|BOB BUMBERA: i have not been around bob<br />
but the fighter on the front of the site, whom JERRY is putting the wood to. is<br />
none other than "bad" THAD SPENCER.I recently sent to Iowa to get the