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|9/19/03 06:19:15 PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||7|Kent -Early Tyson was a caveman, but a fast, savage, hard hitting caveman. Possibly only Ali and Frazier put combinations together as fast, and it'd be close. Prime to prime, I think Tyson would take Jerry, possibly Ali, Frazier, only if he struck early (past five, and Joe'd chop him up), but Foreman would lift him off the canvas - another Kingston. Late Tyson, all of the guys would beat him fairly easily, inside the distance.| |9/19/03 06:25:08 PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|BTW, has anyone given any thought to Tyson being heavily onto steroids? His weight for his height (and I don't think he's really 5'11"), and as chiseled as he is - giant arms, neck, six pack stomach - are all sure signs of steroids. I haven't been able to see closely enough to tell if he has stretch marks (harder to see on a black man), but the most common and obvious place would be in the underarm/pectoral region. If he were on them, this would enhance his speed and strength immensely. Boxing being what it is, someone could be from another planet and on LSD, and no one would know or care.| |9/19/03 07:12:21 PM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||7|i would not doubt mike tyson being on drugs. theres no telling with him. i don't like him as a person and he says a lot of stupid things. he did say somthing very smart once. HE SAID PEOPLE ARE OUT FOR WHAT THEY CAN GET FROM HIM. ALSO HE JUDGES PEOPLE NOT FOR WHO THEY ARE, BUT FOR WHO THEY REALLY ARE!!! the clockster agrees coo coo| |9/19/03 07:57:26 PM|Kent|So Cal||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Koo Koo you said Frazier, Ellis, Jerry, would have no chance agaisnt today's heavyweights? Two of the three major heavyweight titles in this so called age of giant heavyweights are held by Roy Jones Jr. 193 pounds when he won his title and normally a light heavyweight, and Chris Byrd who weighs about 213 pounds. If these two can win titles in today's age, then why not the fighters from the 60s and 70s?In recent times only two larger heavyweights have shown to be major talents, Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe. Otherwise the champions have been closer to the size of the fighters from Jerry's and Joe F's era. Among them, Tyson, 220 pounds in his prime, Evander Holyfield, 205 to 212 in his prime and Larry Holmes, 212 to 215 in his prime.When some of the other super sized heavyweights start winning major titles and holding on to them, then we can say this is the age of the super big heavyweights. Only David Tua, who is hot one minute and then cold the next and the Klitscko Brothers have shown any kind of talent at all and the K Brothers still need to prove themselves as being anything more than talented prospects. None of the other so called giant fighters of today have proved they have any talent at all. Frazier, Jerry, Patterson, and especially Foreman and Ali would do very well against these lumbering, limited fighters. | |9/19/03 10:02:06 PM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||7|kent , you poor lost soul. don't understand that runners are faster, football players are bigger and better. the boxers are lagging behind on talent(i'll give you that) otherwise , no contestthe small guys lose. roy jones jr. is an exception to the rule. he might be the greatest fight in history before he gets done. KENT, STOP LIVING IN THE PAST ANOTHER THING PAUL DOES. IT'S NOT 1968, IT'S 2003 PAUL RESPOND TO MY EMAILS I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT KENT , I WROTE THE BOOK YOU KNOW:) COO COO | |9/19/03 10:30:44 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Yes Koo Koo, you are right, athletes in other sports are bigger, stronger, and faster. But boxing is a sport that requires a specialized skill and skill beats size most of the time. My examples of champions from recent times shows that except for a few occasions, the heavyweight champions have not been that much bigger than they were in the past, maybe twenty pounds or so at the most.Like I said, when more of the super sized heayweights start dominating the division,
then I will agree it is the age of the bigger heavyweight. But not until then.A perfect example of skill overcoming size is when 211 pound Davaryl Williamson knocked out American Corey Sanders last year, who weighed 320 pounds. Tbe other Sanders, Corrie of South Africa, by the way weighed 224 pounds when he knocked out 240 pound Wladimir Klitschko to win the fringe WBO title.| |9/20/03 12:26:21 AM|KOOKOO|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||7|don't you think your being a little hardheaded kent? so all the other sports, just not boxing?i've seen umm all kent, just look at the tapes, joe frazier would be crushed trying to get inside on lennox lewis. he's not going to take lewis' punches all night, like he did with ali. i admit the golden days of the past were much more interesting, but kent you must face the facts. otherwise you are lying to yourself. FOOLFACE IF YOUR OUT THERE I WORSHIP YOU MAN, COME BACK MAN, LIKE THE RANDY NEUMAN SONG, YOU GOT A FRIEND IN ME!| |9/20/03 08:30:51 AM|Steve|N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|What's the general consesus on when Tyson's skills seem to just go out the window? I know it's commonly acceppted that he was seriously hurt by Cus DiAmmato's death.This in term of his personal life and his training and discipline.I forget when this huge personal loss took place,in relation to the Buster Douglas fight.Was he losing it all by the time of the fight,or did that beating[ and he really did take a pretty good beating],really start his slide? Was it a combonation of all the above factors ? He pretty much lost that valuable intimidation factor after that.R.S.,I do agree that the early Tyson,with his formidable hand speed and power,would have made Quarry a probable early stoppage victim.I do,however give Quarry a chance based on several observations.First,Quarry's performance in the 1st two rounds of both Frazeir fights.As you mentioned ,Quarry's ability to change tactics,move in and out,take a punch,and his very hard counterpunching .Also, I question the quality of Tyson's opponents.At least the first,and second group on his way to meeting Hollyfeild.| |9/20/03 11:08:01 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Steve, Cus died about the time of Tyson's tenth pro fight and while it had a huge emotional effect on him, he responded by burying himself in his word, boxing, to ease his pain. So in a way Cus' death helped his career because Tyson was motivated to win the title for Cus. Tyson was also very close to Jimmy Jacobs, the man who took over as his manager, who also died around the time of his fight with Michael Spinks. This second blow triggered his emotional slide. Tyson was not close to, on personal terms, with CO manager Bill Cayton and Don King was able to use the racial card, of not trusting the white man, in this case Cayton, as well as Kevin Rooney, Tyson's trainer, to "weasel" his way into Tyson's affairs. King made sure that Tyson cut all of his ties he had left to Cus and this, along with his brief marriage to that greedy actress, who's name escapes me at the moment, planted the seeds to his downfall. The signs of decline could be seen as early as Tyson's fight with Frank Bruno, in which Tyson was rocked hard in the first couple of rounds only to bail himself out with his power in round number five. This fight happened in 1989, the year before his loss to Douglas. | |9/20/03 11:28:08 AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Steve - Tyson certainly beat up a lot of bums, and in face lost his title to basically a fat sparring partner-class fighter, in Buster Douglas. But his hand speed was frightening. Fast as Frazier's and Holmes's hands were, I'd put Tyson above them, and just below a young Ali. Tyson's problems always were between his ears. His madness, plus a steady diet of Golden Age heavies would have either defined him as a great, or as a physically talented heavy bag. I suspect the latter. We never got a much of a look at how Tyson could handle the distance against a hard opponent, a route he'd have had to have gone in the 60s and 70s many times. As to the Quarry-Tyson issue once more, certainly Jerry would have
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THE JERRY QUARRY FOUNDATION LETTERS
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knockdowns. Forrest fought a great
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organization to be described as act
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could greatly improve the sport in
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oxing shows on Thursday nights with
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to his extra skill level and he win
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twice (official and unofficial)whil
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196 anymore. He could have been in
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eplying,i just like to say that in
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probably would have beaten Ellis on
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matchups. Quarry faired much better
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ivens,sam mcvey.i must plead the fa
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for Max although Schmeling holds hi
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of trouble twice. Jerry had a simil
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other going down hill. However, he
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fight interviews, Lewis was often a
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|6/19/02 12:50:45 PM|Kent|La Habra,
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|6/24/02 10:18:55 AM|Bob Bumbera|NC
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fight with Jerry. I remember a whil
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|7/3/02 08:28:44 AM|Joe Krause|Chic
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powerful for his size, and too used
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I HOPE WE ALL CAN KEEP THIS WEBSITE
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of glitz, cash and excess, gets jus
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|7/18/02 01:23:30 PM|Sabrina Quarry
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|7/20/02 11:37:59 PM|Steve|N.J.||dm
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seen a millon times. I am looking f
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forum knuck,knuck, knuck. and lesli
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attacked. He would hurt Joe for sur
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authority on taking a punch, George
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tactical opportunities. He had Fraz
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tussle he witnessed between Jerry a
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|8/26/02 08:35:33 PM|Gerry Schultz|
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our pick to win. Hurry back Evren,
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Frazier is as courageous a fighter
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QUARRY'S COME BACK VS LORENZO ZANON
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supposedly set when Coetzee was bri
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JABBOXING@YAHOO.COMWWW.ANGELFIRE.CO
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comeback. And i still say that had
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after Zack Clayton counted 10. He w
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outfought by Ali and Young when pla
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STUDENT WITH A 22-2 RECORD, NO PUNC
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|10/16/02 07:34:25 PM|charles ander
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DIDNT FIGHT ANYONE WITH A NAME UNTI
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Norton. I think George just cut the
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oxing fans? I have some old Ring ma
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he said. ' Watching a guy by the na
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Back to boxing; two former long tim
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|11/27/02 04:42:48 PM|Carl Weingart
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Frazier. If anyone is interested co
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JQ or MIKE QUARRY ever Quitting wit
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his fights with Dwight {the Camden
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seconds of a video clip). I know he
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EVERY ROUND although he was also a
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fight Bonavena. I give the edge to
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sunlight?Every time he smacked one
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found two champs who matched up poo
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future,the bout took place nov.2,19
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from the sport.I don't mean fighter
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TIME, WHAT DO EMILE GRIFFITH, FORES
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tourniment!There are surely enough
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|1/25/03 09:19:02 AM|Sonia Hathaway
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I THOUGHT IT WAS DEDICATED TO IMPRO
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overflowedSpawns Face of Sweet Reme
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who commits suicide usually has dee
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|2/17/03 02:08:41 PM|Max Hord|ferna
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On the most part, my family, althou
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NICE GUY WHO MANAGED AMONG OTHERS,
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TED GULLICK. I WANTED TO SAY SOMETH
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you are ridiculing me by mentioning
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had surprisingly quick hands. I als
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George Foremen. I asked Sandy who h
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class guy, a lotta people did not k
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CONCERNED,IS ESPN'S SHOWING ALI-QUA
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unbeatable. It would be a long shot
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punch hard in the first round.Most
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|3/22/03 07:55:53 PM|Forest Ward|So
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fight more effectively backing up t
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Polite,Boone Kirkman, I'm stumped o
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there.Sometimes we agree and other
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|4/16/03 09:57:33 PM|Danny Layton|B
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Beat Shavers in a fantastic perform
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any other fighter born,would have t
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|5/10/03 05:18:35 PM|Kent Appel|La
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grudges around here. Every once in
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at the hands of George Foreman. It
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Imagine the poor guy that tried to
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The recent James Toney verses Vassi
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fighter's were protected against to
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knocked out but was totally exhaust
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anking and that is much better the
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LETTING ME ADD ON TO THE JERRY QUAR
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that Norton showed how much heart h
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took a lot of punishment is proof o
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others' careers and boxing in gener
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winning. Something I just couldn't
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losses to good fighters. Chuvalo fo
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words to cool him down. The Ring ma
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|7/16/03 01:21:38 PM|Joe Krause|Chi
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could tell that much in one round?
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knew this and they covered it up by
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fight between him and Roy Jones wou
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ing and the most consistent winner
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|7/30/03 06:27:13 AM|Massimo|Rome||
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Square Garden, New YorkFebruary 10,
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ecause your attitude is offensive.
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|8/7/03 01:30:13 PM|Kent|La Habra,
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already been fighting amateur at a
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Johanssen, or a Buster Douglas on t
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Primo is not comparable with Shaq.
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Evren: with all the respect for the
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that is the rule. If you get to far
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decision. Frazier was made to order
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just read what guys like Frazier an
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with a young Joe Frazier and lost a
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well. Almost 30 years after they fo
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60's, they gave Ali very good match
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history, for as I believe Frank Def
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ut Lyle wasn't as devastating as Fo
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Quarry. It’s a great program, and
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is a top 5 all-timer because he cou
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shoulder and side in it, in smooth
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One of your posts said, "shrill hyp
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Arnold for for gov'na of the land o
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