January 2002 - October 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation
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the fight, and even after several weeks, the left eye was still bad enough that<br />
he couldn't have legally driven at night. He used to memorize eye charts when<br />
tested, and used his footwork to subtly try to stay in a position that didn't<br />
isolate the right eye so much, when looking for right hands. This was also why<br />
he didn't fight in California, since they have more stringent eye<br />
exams.In '75, he had surgery, but in order to have completely normal<br />
vision, he had to wear contacts, which he wore when he fought Foreman the second<br />
time! This isn't legal, of course, and one of the lenses shifted slightly while<br />
he was in the ring, which made things worse than having none at all.Now<br />
I love Joe Frazier, one of my very favorite fighters, but I've got to tell him,<br />
that was nuts! A person's eyes are to be guarded at all costs!|<br />
|8/29/03 08:29:30<br />
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Ed -My<br />
post on Frazier's eyes has a typo. I say he used his footwork to keep the burden<br />
off his ~right~ eye as much as possible, when looking for right hands, and I<br />
meant to say his left eye.Brown and Ali? I can believe that. I'll bet it<br />
started out like pretend play, silly stuff, and Ali was willing to let it stay<br />
at that level, but Brown decided to push the envelope, and finally Ali had to<br />
teach him a lesson.<strong>The</strong> average guy has been in fights, and watches<br />
boxers doing the same thing, and doesn't always see the difference. This happens<br />
in all sports, of course, guys thinking, "That doesn't look hard - I could do<br />
that!" It seems to happen more often with boxing though, and I can't fathom why,<br />
in the toughest sport there is, by far.With this sort of attitude, I<br />
imagine a guy already accomplished in sports could feel even more that it wan't<br />
"that hard." Speaking of real life vs the ring, I saw an old clip with<br />
Archie Moore once, where he said that a one sided ring win still left the winner<br />
as battered as a one sided loss on the street left the ~loser~. Interesting!|<br />
|8/29/03 09:26:19 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|I agree<br />
that a round-by-round prediction is a stretch (my analysis of a possible Holmes-<br />
Frazier fight) but I just generally think Holmes would be the fast starter, the<br />
middle rounds would be a time when the tide started to change, Frazier would<br />
come on in the late rounds, but fall a little short. I base this on general<br />
patterns of these guys' key fights. It's fun to think about, even if it's<br />
impossible to know. In my opinion, people who've never boxed or just boxed<br />
recreationally (myself included), can learn the fundamentals and be in good<br />
condition---but the worst pro boxer in the world would run circles around the<br />
best schooled, most in-shape non-boxer. Simply put, real boxers spend countless<br />
hours understanding and practicing how to throw lethal punches in combination.<br />
<strong>The</strong> speed of most pro boxers and the physics of their punches would make an<br />
idiot of me and other guys who love to watch and love to put the gloves on to<br />
mess around. Also, pro boxers know how to move to take a punch/absorb<br />
punishment. You can take an "average" retired professional fighter---maybe a<br />
guy who boxed amateur for a few years and pro for 7 or 8 years----a guy who<br />
never made it to a title fight, but maybe lost to a few contenders but made a<br />
good show of it. Someone like this, at 50 years old and retired, would destroy<br />
a 30 year old non-boxer in the best shape of their life. On the topic of<br />
great fights, how about Holmes-Norton? You watch the 15th round and you realize<br />
that they were true warriors that night. Norton might have stumbled badly<br />
against the big power punchers, but he was amazing against good boxers who<br />
weren't known for the power punch. If Norton got into the rhythm of a fight and<br />
didn't have fear of getting knocked out, his confidence would grow round-byround.<br />
Holmes had to dig deep to hold on for that win. After watching Norton-<br />
Ali Three and Norton-Young, two very close fights, I offer the following<br />
opinion: Norton fought Ali very smartly but failed to score a knockdown, never<br />
had Ali in serious trouble and gave away too many rounds. He might have been<br />
aggressive, but that's only one part of scoring a fight. You always hear that<br />
Norton was robbed in this fight, but I didn't see that. He fought well, but