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CONMISSIONER ROWAN: Without there being a<br />

demand f<strong>or</strong> the money <strong>or</strong> wh<strong>at</strong>ever other fav<strong>or</strong>s?<br />

THE WITNESS: It's a way of life.<br />

understood th<strong>at</strong> was the way it was done.<br />

It was<br />

COMMISSIONER ROWAN: I think Mr. Harmon asked<br />

<strong>you</strong> how <strong>you</strong> could avoid <strong>you</strong>r union being taken over by<br />

<strong>or</strong>ganized crime, and I would like <strong>you</strong> to expand a little<br />

bit on th<strong>at</strong> answer, if <strong>you</strong> can safely.<br />

THE WITNESS: In my particular case the <strong>or</strong>-<br />

ganized criminal element th<strong>at</strong> approached me was basically<br />

interested in gaining access to a site f<strong>or</strong> the gambling,<br />

the bookmaking, the loansharking activities.<br />

When they were able to gain access in a much<br />

easier fashion, it wasn't w<strong>or</strong>th their while to continue<br />

dealing with me after I ref<strong>us</strong>ed.<br />

strength to ref<strong>us</strong>e?<br />

COMMISSIONER ROWAN: Wh<strong>at</strong> gave <strong>you</strong> the<br />

THE WITNESS: There was a certain amount of<br />

luck involved. They did not press beyond a certain<br />

point.<br />

COMMISSIONER ROWAN: Th<strong>at</strong> is all.<br />

ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Commissioner Methvin.<br />

COl-U'lISSIONER METHVIN: Mr. Witness r can <strong>you</strong><br />

give <strong>us</strong> an estim<strong>at</strong>e based on <strong>you</strong>r experience the<br />

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