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th<strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> ref<strong>us</strong>al is made a part of the rec<strong>or</strong>d. And<br />

the staff is directed to take wh<strong>at</strong>ever further action<br />

is necessary under the circumstances to continue to<br />

<strong>at</strong>tempt to obtain the testimony of <strong>this</strong> witness.<br />

You understand th<strong>at</strong> <strong>at</strong> any time <strong>you</strong> wish to<br />

change <strong>you</strong>r testimony <strong>or</strong> <strong>you</strong>r decision while <strong>you</strong> are<br />

in c<strong>us</strong>tody, <strong>this</strong> Commission will be having ongoing<br />

hearings. We will take <strong>you</strong>r testimony <strong>at</strong> a l<strong>at</strong>er d<strong>at</strong>e,<br />

if <strong>you</strong> change <strong>you</strong>r mind.<br />

MR. CANTAZARO: My answer would be the same.<br />

ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER; I think under those<br />

circumstances, beca<strong>us</strong>e it is the position of judges who<br />

<strong>have</strong> reviewed on <strong>this</strong> m<strong>at</strong>ter th<strong>at</strong> an <strong>or</strong>der of immunity<br />

granted by a Commission member is the effect of an <strong>or</strong>der<br />

granted by a Unitnd St<strong>at</strong>es District Judge, th<strong>at</strong> it would<br />

do no -- serve no further purpose, Mr. Harmon, <strong>at</strong> <strong>this</strong><br />

time to ask <strong>this</strong> witness to remain any longer and we<br />

would ask th<strong>at</strong> he be exc<strong>us</strong>ed.<br />

ness, Mr. Harmon.<br />

MR. ECHELES: Thank <strong>you</strong>.<br />

MR, CANTAZARO: Thank <strong>you</strong>.<br />

(Witness exc<strong>us</strong>ed.)<br />

ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER:<br />

Call <strong>you</strong>r next wit-<br />

MR. HARMON: With <strong>you</strong>r permission, Mr. Chairmam

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