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for the record, sir? MR. PRESSER: Jackie Presser. MR. HARMON: And what is your present position? ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Mr. Harmon, before we proceed, counsel, I notice -- Mr. Presser is repre sented by counsel who is at counsel table with him. Mr. Harmon, would you identify counsel whom you have been communicating with on the record? MR. HARMON: Yes, the attorney present with Mr. Presser is Mr. John Climaco of the law firm of Climaco, Climaco, Seminatore & Lefkowitz of Cleveland, Ohio. Mr. Harmon. Mr. Presser? ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Thank you. Go ahead, MR. HARMON: What is your present occupation, MR. PRESSER: I am the general president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. MR. HARMON: When did you first arrive to that position, Mr. Presser? for the record. MR. PRESSER: I would like to make a statement ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: You have a statement, Mr. Harmon, that was presented pursuant to our rules? 293
MR. CLIMACO: Mr. Chairman, excuse me, Mr. Presser does not have a statement. answer to that question. He in fact has an ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Would the court reporter please repeat the question? And if Mr. Presser, has a responsive answer to the question, I would ask that he give it. If it's not responsive, we will deal with it at that time. (Record read.) MR. PRESSER: Mr. Chairman, members of the commission, my attorney on April the 22nd, 1985, pur suant to Public Law 98-368 requested that the Commission continue my appearance until a later date and ACTING CHAIIU1AN SKINNER: Mr. Presser, that is obviously not responsive to the question. The question is -- would you repeat the question again, please, court reporter, and I direct that you answer. Let me make a brief statement before we go any further. You are here under oath subpoened to answer questions. You have a very competent counsel who has been communicating with this Commission on a regular basis and we have been trying to deal with his request as late as 11:00 o'clock last night. We expect you to be responsive. We expect you to take the advice of 294
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APRIL 24. III e ••••••
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The President's commission on organ
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Weill also present a case study of
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speoific circumstances with them, w
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MR. HARMON; Well, they were linked
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PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON ORGANIZED
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and the public for destructive and
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hundred locals are heavily influenc
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with nylon rope and repeatedly stab
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MR. ETO: Yes. MR. RYAN: The structu
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MR. RYAN: What office does he hold?
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not pay me -- if he did not pay me,
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MR. RYAN: Did you report to Vincent
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I told him that I pleaded stipulate
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9th did you receive a call from Joe
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cial? MR. ETO: Yes. I-iR. RYAN: Is
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witness. MR. HARMON: Mr. Chairman,
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eport to Vincent Solano, the presid
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1983, to compel the attendance and
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in his statement are virtually the
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charges of a Grand Jury investigati
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Local I in Chicago? same grounds. M
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same grounds. MR. RYAN: Are you fam
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the construction of the building an
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construction of a building from the
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equest that he not be required to t
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that would normally perform that fu
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something? COMMISSIONER METHVIN: Di
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consideration on the job site. that
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: The aftern
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member of the local, as a field rep
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So he asked me to go in and clean t
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worked until they was ready to drop
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epresentatives of the Laborers? MR.
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occurred in 1981 and Mr. Fosco was
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MR. FOSCO: General President of the
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I'lR. FOSCO: I exercise my rights u
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of the record. And you should advis
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MR. HARMON: Are you prepared, Mr. C
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Mr. Ryan will handle the questionin
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MR. RYAN: When you responded to thi
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other people there. A leader of the
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snapped open. Several TDU members w
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Hitt? MR. HITT: Yes, they did. MR.
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his client to exercise his constitu
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"Same answer." MR. QUILLEN: On the
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him. to organized crime? MR. HARMON
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Local l07? MR. RISPO: No, sir. MR.
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soma people in Philadelphia -- ther
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And then a couple of years later th
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Coca-Cola, Spiegel's, J.C. Penney s
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other words, whatever the drivers e
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said he would call Williams? MR. RI
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ackground when he was doing his bus
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corporations. during the mid '70s?
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I went down to the bar to talk to S
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company. The drivers -- basically w
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did enforce the contract, that hold
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So the guy lost everything. Now tha
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I have no doubt that we could have
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laws of the Department of Labor? Le
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ought out? MR. HARMON: Will Daniel
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labor union? MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes. M
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: Well, that wasn't n
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MR. HARMON: Every union has a right
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these companies were run by ex-law
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persons by the name of Ruben Gonzal
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: No, none at all. MR
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: Primarily, yes, in
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Seeing no
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MR. CONNERTON: I am the chairman of
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that law firm? firm. that law firm?
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MR. CONNERTON: That's correct. MR.
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pension fund or health and welfare
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therefore, was consistent with the
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MR. CONNERTON: Again, subject to an
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premiums paid for the coverage of t
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was about 300 pounds, nnd he put hi
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COMMISSIONER METHVIN: I think the v
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ule; that the union can provide rep
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MR. CONNERTON: That is correct, Mr.
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We'll hear testimony from the execu
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MR. WALSH: There was a dual situati
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member of La Cosa Nostra? DR. AIOSS
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figure, sir. I'm not sure of the ac
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MR. RYAN: And when you took the job
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MR. RYAN: Dr. Aiossa, is it also tr
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MR. RYAN: What did that projection
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operation, Mr. Cantazaro, with the
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surveillance from September 1974 un
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MR. RYAN: At approximately 11:15 a.
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e spoken to? MR. RYAN: Usually the
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to me. MR. RYAN: You are answering
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organization here in Chicago known
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MR. RYAN: Let's talk about some oth
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of years? Fifi Buccieri? MR. SERPIC
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MR. SERPICO: No, I didn't. MR. RYAN
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quickly. MR. SERPICO: I'm sorry. AC
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now be in recess and we are going t
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these tapes were garnered. We asked
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SALVATORE AVELLINO: Well, maybe the
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eady to go to work. The union peopl
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favor now, first of all, he admits
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What does Avellino mean by "the env
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and then because eventually Tommy w
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words. manipulate it. RICHARD DeLUC
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the results of that study. With tha
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men of honor, the people in the mob
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Goldstock, on behalf of the Commiss
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trucking company? hurt. MR. HALL: M
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50 percent more people that they we
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essential for multi-employer funds
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Mr. Dorfman was killed on January 2
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the -- Whether it be approaching us
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COMMISSIONER MANUEL: For many years
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course of the Hoffa investigation.
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information and ask the Secretary o
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Mr. Methvi
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on our democratic fabric. The notio
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Preceding page blank APPENDIX STATE
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I would like to welcome you to this
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y trucking fabric to non-union shop
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CCNVERSATION #: 4 DATE TAPE NUMBER
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Corallo that a particular rebel car
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STA'I'EMENT SUBMITTED FOR THE RECOR
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with Mr. Dorfman which we had begun
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operators are able to answer the va
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The second cornerstone of the Civil
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As impressive as this litany of rac
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to the extent possible that the per
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us with investigating. Equally impo
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Commission Executive Director James
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CHICAGO Map shows areas where Vince
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Executive Director James Harmon and
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Robert E. Powell, retired First Vic
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Robert Cantazaro (left) was incarce
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Convicted racketeer Robert G. Boffa
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Samuel Solomon (foreground), accomp
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Commission investigator David Willi
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Robert Connerton (center), general
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Joseph "Doves" Aiuppa, second ranki
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Ronald Goldstock, Director of the N
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