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consideration on the job site. that big a problems that arose. to do their job. There were never really The OSHA people seem ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Mr. Rogovin. COMMISSIONER ROGOVIN: If contracting company officials payoff union officials and one of their pur poses is to guarantee that the best union workers will be put on their job, and you have testified, I think, that all contracting companies payoff, then what hap pened to the inefficient workers, what jobs do they work on? THE WITNESS: Ironically enough there is in effect today in most unions a referral system whereby, on the basis of seniority or length of time on lists, a man is referred for a job. When he gets to that job, the contractor has the right to remove certain people that he does not foe1 are doing the job. The unions can be very flexible in how far they fight them on this, and that is one way around the referral system; that is one way you can be sure of getting certain workers to certain sites. COMMISSIONEE ROGOVIN: Second question: If contractors are paying off union officials for the pur poses you have testified to, then that money is coming
out of what otherwise would be their profits on the jobs, and I assume that construction companies are in business to make profits. That would suggest that jobs are being overpriced at the bid level because there is a sludge factor in there for payoffs. THE WITNESS: That's cotrect. COmiISSIONER ROGOVIN: One more question. Is what you have testified to with regard to payoffs to union officials true on both private and government construction work? construction job. THE WORKER: In my experience it has been, any COr.1l'
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APRIL 24. III e ••••••
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The President's commission on organ
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Weill also present a case study of
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speoific circumstances with them, w
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MR. HARMON; Well, they were linked
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PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON ORGANIZED
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and the public for destructive and
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hundred locals are heavily influenc
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with nylon rope and repeatedly stab
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MR. ETO: Yes. MR. RYAN: The structu
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MR. RYAN: What office does he hold?
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not pay me -- if he did not pay me,
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MR. RYAN: Did you report to Vincent
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I told him that I pleaded stipulate
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9th did you receive a call from Joe
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cial? MR. ETO: Yes. I-iR. RYAN: Is
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witness. MR. HARMON: Mr. Chairman,
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MR. RYAN: When you responded to thi
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other people there. A leader of the
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snapped open. Several TDU members w
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Hitt? MR. HITT: Yes, they did. MR.
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his client to exercise his constitu
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"Same answer." MR. QUILLEN: On the
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him. to organized crime? MR. HARMON
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Local l07? MR. RISPO: No, sir. MR.
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soma people in Philadelphia -- ther
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And then a couple of years later th
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Coca-Cola, Spiegel's, J.C. Penney s
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other words, whatever the drivers e
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said he would call Williams? MR. RI
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ackground when he was doing his bus
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corporations. during the mid '70s?
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I went down to the bar to talk to S
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company. The drivers -- basically w
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did enforce the contract, that hold
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So the guy lost everything. Now tha
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victed of homicide? MR. RISPO: You
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MR. RYAN: Very recently? MR. SOLOMO
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MR. SOLOMON: Yes. MR. RYAN: Were th
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period? MR. SOLOMON: Yes, sir. MR.
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figures as in the past? MR. SOLOMON
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: I guess --
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they should be provided 48 hours in
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or individuals involved in those en
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and'also with the investigation whi
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as a corporation to ensure that you
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MR. CLIMACO: Mr. Chairman, excuse m
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MR. PRESSER: Mr. Chairman, on the a
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Just a mom
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excused until tomorrow morning at 9
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Trustees unquestioningly paid milli
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Teamsters, was that a cost plus con
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: This morni
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MR. RYANI Mr. Schaffler, would you
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Lasky. Has he been convicted, Geral
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I have no doubt that we could have
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laws of the Department of Labor? Le
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ought out? MR. HARMON: Will Daniel
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labor union? MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes. M
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: Well, that wasn't n
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MR. HARMON: Every union has a right
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these companies were run by ex-law
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persons by the name of Ruben Gonzal
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: No, none at all. MR
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: Primarily, yes, in
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Seeing no
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MR. CONNERTON: I am the chairman of
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that law firm? firm. that law firm?
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MR. CONNERTON: That's correct. MR.
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pension fund or health and welfare
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therefore, was consistent with the
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MR. CONNERTON: Again, subject to an
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premiums paid for the coverage of t
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was about 300 pounds, nnd he put hi
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COMMISSIONER METHVIN: I think the v
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ule; that the union can provide rep
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MR. CONNERTON: That is correct, Mr.
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We'll hear testimony from the execu
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MR. WALSH: There was a dual situati
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member of La Cosa Nostra? DR. AIOSS
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figure, sir. I'm not sure of the ac
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MR. RYAN: And when you took the job
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MR. RYAN: Dr. Aiossa, is it also tr
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MR. RYAN: What did that projection
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operation, Mr. Cantazaro, with the
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surveillance from September 1974 un
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MR. RYAN: At approximately 11:15 a.
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e spoken to? MR. RYAN: Usually the
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to me. MR. RYAN: You are answering
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organization here in Chicago known
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MR. RYAN: Let's talk about some oth
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of years? Fifi Buccieri? MR. SERPIC
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MR. SERPICO: No, I didn't. MR. RYAN
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quickly. MR. SERPICO: I'm sorry. AC
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now be in recess and we are going t
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these tapes were garnered. We asked
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SALVATORE AVELLINO: Well, maybe the
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eady to go to work. The union peopl
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favor now, first of all, he admits
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What does Avellino mean by "the env
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and then because eventually Tommy w
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words. manipulate it. RICHARD DeLUC
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the results of that study. With tha
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men of honor, the people in the mob
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Goldstock, on behalf of the Commiss
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trucking company? hurt. MR. HALL: M
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50 percent more people that they we
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essential for multi-employer funds
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Mr. Dorfman was killed on January 2
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the -- Whether it be approaching us
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COMMISSIONER MANUEL: For many years
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course of the Hoffa investigation.
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information and ask the Secretary o
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Mr. Methvi
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on our democratic fabric. The notio
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I would like to welcome you to this
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y trucking fabric to non-union shop
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STA'I'EMENT SUBMITTED FOR THE RECOR
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with Mr. Dorfman which we had begun
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operators are able to answer the va
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The second cornerstone of the Civil
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As impressive as this litany of rac
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to the extent possible that the per
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us with investigating. Equally impo
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Commission Executive Director James
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CHICAGO Map shows areas where Vince
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Executive Director James Harmon and
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Robert E. Powell, retired First Vic
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Robert Cantazaro (left) was incarce
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Convicted racketeer Robert G. Boffa
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Samuel Solomon (foreground), accomp
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Commission investigator David Willi
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Robert Connerton (center), general
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Joseph "Doves" Aiuppa, second ranki
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Ronald Goldstock, Director of the N
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