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organization here in Chicago known as the outfit? MR. SERPICO: It's the same answer. The same as I answered in respect to what you asked about Mr. Solano: I would say the same thing about Mr. DeMonte. MR. RYAN: Does it concern you at all that in the case of United States vs. Accardo, Mr. Al pilotto, a territorial boss from the City of Chicago, and inci dentally the president of Laborers' Local 5, was con victed of racketeering charges? busiuess? MR. SERPICO: Yes, it does concern me. MR. RYAN: You know Mr. pilotto? MR. SERPICO: Yes, I do. MR. RYAN: You knew him because of your union MR. SERPICO: That's right. MR. RYAN: You hdd meetings with Mr. Pilotto? MR. SERPICO: I have attended meetings with Mr. Pilotto, as far as the union goes. MR. RYAN: Had you ever heard that he was a territorial boss in La Cos a Nostra? MR. SERPICO: No. MR. RYAN: And what have you investigated further the situation in Local 5 today to ensure that Mr. Pilotto wasn't the only representative of organized
crime in that union? MR. SERPICO: It's not my jurisdiction to investigate any local in the union; only if the president assigns a different project to each of the vice-presidents as they come up. There is no juris diction that anyone vice-president controls. MR. RYAN: Have you ever suggested that an investigation be brought concerning these allegations of organized crime? MR. SERPICO: No, I never did. MR. RYAN: Are you aware that Mr. Fosco was here earlier this week and refused to answer any ques tions? MR. SERPICO: I am aware of it. MR. RYAN: Let's talk about your particular union, sir. Do you know John Fecarotta? MR. SERPICO: Yes, I do. MR. RYAN: Tell me how you know Mr. Fecarotta. MR. SERPICO: '74 or '75, I don't know eXactly my organizing director, who at the time was Henry Harrison, came and recommended him for an organizing position. tions? MR. RYAN: And did you look at his qualifica- ;504
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APRIL 24. III e ••••••
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The President's commission on organ
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Weill also present a case study of
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speoific circumstances with them, w
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MR. HARMON; Well, they were linked
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PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON ORGANIZED
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and the public for destructive and
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hundred locals are heavily influenc
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with nylon rope and repeatedly stab
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MR. ETO: Yes. MR. RYAN: The structu
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MR. RYAN: What office does he hold?
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not pay me -- if he did not pay me,
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MR. RYAN: Did you report to Vincent
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I told him that I pleaded stipulate
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9th did you receive a call from Joe
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cial? MR. ETO: Yes. I-iR. RYAN: Is
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witness. MR. HARMON: Mr. Chairman,
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eport to Vincent Solano, the presid
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1983, to compel the attendance and
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in his statement are virtually the
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charges of a Grand Jury investigati
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Local I in Chicago? same grounds. M
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same grounds. MR. RYAN: Are you fam
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the construction of the building an
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construction of a building from the
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equest that he not be required to t
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that would normally perform that fu
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something? COMMISSIONER METHVIN: Di
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consideration on the job site. that
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: The aftern
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member of the local, as a field rep
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So he asked me to go in and clean t
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worked until they was ready to drop
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epresentatives of the Laborers? MR.
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occurred in 1981 and Mr. Fosco was
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MR. FOSCO: General President of the
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I'lR. FOSCO: I exercise my rights u
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of the record. And you should advis
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MR. HARMON: Are you prepared, Mr. C
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Mr. Ryan will handle the questionin
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MR. RYAN: When you responded to thi
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other people there. A leader of the
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snapped open. Several TDU members w
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Hitt? MR. HITT: Yes, they did. MR.
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his client to exercise his constitu
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"Same answer." MR. QUILLEN: On the
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him. to organized crime? MR. HARMON
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Local l07? MR. RISPO: No, sir. MR.
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soma people in Philadelphia -- ther
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And then a couple of years later th
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Coca-Cola, Spiegel's, J.C. Penney s
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other words, whatever the drivers e
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said he would call Williams? MR. RI
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ackground when he was doing his bus
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corporations. during the mid '70s?
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I went down to the bar to talk to S
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company. The drivers -- basically w
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did enforce the contract, that hold
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So the guy lost everything. Now tha
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victed of homicide? MR. RISPO: You
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MR. RYAN: Very recently? MR. SOLOMO
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MR. SOLOMON: Yes. MR. RYAN: Were th
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period? MR. SOLOMON: Yes, sir. MR.
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figures as in the past? MR. SOLOMON
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: I guess --
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they should be provided 48 hours in
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or individuals involved in those en
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and'also with the investigation whi
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as a corporation to ensure that you
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MR. CLIMACO: Mr. Chairman, excuse m
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MR. PRESSER: Mr. Chairman, on the a
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Just a mom
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excused until tomorrow morning at 9
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Trustees unquestioningly paid milli
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Teamsters, was that a cost plus con
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: This morni
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MR. RYANI Mr. Schaffler, would you
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Lasky. Has he been convicted, Geral
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I have no doubt that we could have
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laws of the Department of Labor? Le
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ought out? MR. HARMON: Will Daniel
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labor union? MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes. M
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: Well, that wasn't n
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MR. HARMON: Every union has a right
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these companies were run by ex-law
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persons by the name of Ruben Gonzal
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: No, none at all. MR
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: Primarily, yes, in
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Seeing no
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MR. CONNERTON: I am the chairman of
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that law firm? firm. that law firm?
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MR. CONNERTON: That's correct. MR.
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pension fund or health and welfare
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therefore, was consistent with the
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MR. CONNERTON: Again, subject to an
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premiums paid for the coverage of t
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was about 300 pounds, nnd he put hi
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COMMISSIONER METHVIN: I think the v
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ule; that the union can provide rep
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Page 502 and 503: MR. RYAN: And when you took the job
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favor now, first of all, he admits
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What does Avellino mean by "the env
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and then because eventually Tommy w
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words. manipulate it. RICHARD DeLUC
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the results of that study. With tha
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men of honor, the people in the mob
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Goldstock, on behalf of the Commiss
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trucking company? hurt. MR. HALL: M
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50 percent more people that they we
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essential for multi-employer funds
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Mr. Dorfman was killed on January 2
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the -- Whether it be approaching us
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COMMISSIONER MANUEL: For many years
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course of the Hoffa investigation.
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information and ask the Secretary o
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Mr. Methvi
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on our democratic fabric. The notio
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I would like to welcome you to this
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y trucking fabric to non-union shop
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Corallo that a particular rebel car
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STA'I'EMENT SUBMITTED FOR THE RECOR
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with Mr. Dorfman which we had begun
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operators are able to answer the va
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The second cornerstone of the Civil
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As impressive as this litany of rac
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to the extent possible that the per
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us with investigating. Equally impo
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Commission Executive Director James
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CHICAGO Map shows areas where Vince
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Executive Director James Harmon and
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Robert E. Powell, retired First Vic
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Robert Cantazaro (left) was incarce
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Convicted racketeer Robert G. Boffa
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Samuel Solomon (foreground), accomp
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Commission investigator David Willi
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Robert Connerton (center), general
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Joseph "Doves" Aiuppa, second ranki
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Ronald Goldstock, Director of the N
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