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<strong>this</strong> thing straightened out.<br />

<strong>If</strong> we get rid of <strong>this</strong> driver, put in th<strong>at</strong><br />

driver, <strong>or</strong> maybe get rid of all of the drivers, bring<br />

in the new contract and put new drivers in there under<br />

another company.<br />

And the local union would go along with it<br />

knowing th<strong>at</strong> we are both -- th<strong>at</strong> both companies are<br />

owned by the same people and I represent both companies.<br />

The c<strong>or</strong>p<strong>or</strong><strong>at</strong>ion would sit back and make like they <strong>have</strong>n't<br />

touched anything, th<strong>at</strong> <strong>this</strong> is two separ<strong>at</strong>e companies<br />

I'm dealing with. Yet they would call the same man,<br />

Bobby Rispo sitting in New Y<strong>or</strong>k, to deal f<strong>or</strong> Countrywide<br />

Personnel, Universal Co<strong>or</strong>din<strong>at</strong><strong>or</strong>s, <strong>or</strong> Countrywide<br />

Personnp.l in Chicago <strong>or</strong> wh<strong>at</strong>ever. So it was all three.<br />

Lab<strong>or</strong> racketeering can't w<strong>or</strong>k j<strong>us</strong>t with a guy like me.<br />

I'm not an <strong>at</strong>t<strong>or</strong>ney, <strong>you</strong> know, no big brain. All right,<br />

I started out as a lab<strong>or</strong>er. <strong>If</strong> somebody doesn't give me<br />

the leadway, provide money and the cooper<strong>at</strong>ion, <strong>this</strong><br />

thing would never exist.<br />

MR. HARMON: Now wh<strong>at</strong> were the companies<br />

across the country with which Boffa companies did b<strong>us</strong>i-<br />

ness?<br />

MR. RISPO: Well, we did b<strong>us</strong>iness with<br />

Continental Can, Crown C<strong>or</strong>k and Seal, Crown Zellerbach,

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