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my office."
talk to me.
turned you down?
He made it pretty clear he wasn't going to
MR. HARMON: What happened when Frank Wood
MR. RISPO: I went back to the telephone and
I called Eugene Boffa.
MR. HARt-lON: Wha t did he say?
MR. RISPO: I explained to him what was going
on, what was the problem. I said, "This guy ain't
going to cooperate. He doesn't want no part of us."
He said, "All right." He says, "\'l'hat you do
is go back to the motel." He says, "Hang around down
there." He says, "Let me reach out and get a hold of
Sam and Roy."
MR. HARMON: Who did you understand him to
mean when he said Sam and Roy?
MR. RISPO: That was Sam Ancona and Roy
Williams of the Teamsters.
MR. HARMON; Was Sam Ancona at that point head
of Teamsters Joint Council 56 in Kansas City?
at the time.
MR. RISPO: Yes, he was with the Joint Council
MR. HARMON: What happened next t.hen after he
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