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which the Commission -- ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Mr. Carbonaro, under those circumstances, I would direct your witness to answer the questions asked. "Where do you live?" The question that he is left for ahswering is MR. CARBONARO: His answer is on this sheet Qf paper, which he wishes to read and which the Commission doesn't want him to read. ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: He has read a portion of it. He can now go on and answer, if he wishes, where he lives. MR. CARBONARO: His answer is on the paper which he wishes to read, Mr. Commissioner. ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Are you telling me he refuses to answer the question? tion, if allowed to. MR. CARBONARO: He wants to answer the ques ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Is there anything in his answer that you as a lawyer consider to be an exercise of his Fifth Amendment right? MR. CARBONARO: No. MR. HARMON: Mr. Chairman, if I mdY point out, what I hear as the beginnings of legal arguments raised
in his statement are virtually the identical arguments that Mr. Carbonaro raised in Washington when John Fecarotta was subpoened. These arguments were uniformly rejected by Chief Judge Robinson, so there has been a ruling on precisely this issue. ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Mr. Harmon, lot me just caution the witness that failure to answer ques tions and be responsive to questions may subject you. You certainly have an absolute right to exercise, if it's properly done, your rights under the constitution of the United States and this Commission will protect your rights in doing so. You, however, if you fail to exercise those rights or make an informed decision on the advice of counsel not to do so, you then must be respollsive to questions put forth by the Commission. If, in fact, you are not exercising your Fifth Amendment rights and you answer questions, Which are in the opinion at a later date of this Commission and the Court not responsive to the questions, it is my duty to inform you that you are exposing yourself to possible contempt and possible obstruction of justice charges. So I would ask if that is going to be your
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APRIL 24. III e ••••••
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The President's commission on organ
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Weill also present a case study of
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speoific circumstances with them, w
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MR. HARMON; Well, they were linked
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PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON ORGANIZED
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and the public for destructive and
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Page 78: witness. MR. HARMON: Mr. Chairman,
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Page 101: same grounds. MR. RYAN: Are you fam
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Page 133 and 134: ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: The aftern
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Page 137: So he asked me to go in and clean t
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epresentatives of the Laborers? MR.
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occurred in 1981 and Mr. Fosco was
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MR. FOSCO: General President of the
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I'lR. FOSCO: I exercise my rights u
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of the record. And you should advis
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MR. HARMON: Are you prepared, Mr. C
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Mr. Ryan will handle the questionin
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MR. RYAN: When you responded to thi
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other people there. A leader of the
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snapped open. Several TDU members w
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Hitt? MR. HITT: Yes, they did. MR.
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his client to exercise his constitu
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"Same answer." MR. QUILLEN: On the
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him. to organized crime? MR. HARMON
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Local l07? MR. RISPO: No, sir. MR.
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soma people in Philadelphia -- ther
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And then a couple of years later th
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Coca-Cola, Spiegel's, J.C. Penney s
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other words, whatever the drivers e
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said he would call Williams? MR. RI
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ackground when he was doing his bus
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corporations. during the mid '70s?
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I went down to the bar to talk to S
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company. The drivers -- basically w
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did enforce the contract, that hold
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So the guy lost everything. Now tha
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victed of homicide? MR. RISPO: You
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MR. RYAN: Very recently? MR. SOLOMO
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MR. SOLOMON: Yes. MR. RYAN: Were th
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period? MR. SOLOMON: Yes, sir. MR.
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figures as in the past? MR. SOLOMON
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: I guess --
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they should be provided 48 hours in
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or individuals involved in those en
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and'also with the investigation whi
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as a corporation to ensure that you
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MR. CLIMACO: Mr. Chairman, excuse m
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MR. PRESSER: Mr. Chairman, on the a
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Just a mom
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excused until tomorrow morning at 9
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Trustees unquestioningly paid milli
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Teamsters, was that a cost plus con
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: This morni
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MR. RYANI Mr. Schaffler, would you
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Lasky. Has he been convicted, Geral
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I have no doubt that we could have
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laws of the Department of Labor? Le
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ought out? MR. HARMON: Will Daniel
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labor union? MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes. M
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: Well, that wasn't n
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MR. HARMON: Every union has a right
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these companies were run by ex-law
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persons by the name of Ruben Gonzal
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: No, none at all. MR
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: Primarily, yes, in
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Seeing no
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MR. CONNERTON: I am the chairman of
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that law firm? firm. that law firm?
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MR. CONNERTON: That's correct. MR.
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pension fund or health and welfare
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therefore, was consistent with the
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MR. CONNERTON: Again, subject to an
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premiums paid for the coverage of t
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was about 300 pounds, nnd he put hi
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COMMISSIONER METHVIN: I think the v
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ule; that the union can provide rep
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MR. CONNERTON: That is correct, Mr.
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We'll hear testimony from the execu
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MR. WALSH: There was a dual situati
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member of La Cosa Nostra? DR. AIOSS
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figure, sir. I'm not sure of the ac
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MR. RYAN: And when you took the job
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MR. RYAN: Dr. Aiossa, is it also tr
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MR. RYAN: What did that projection
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operation, Mr. Cantazaro, with the
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surveillance from September 1974 un
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MR. RYAN: At approximately 11:15 a.
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e spoken to? MR. RYAN: Usually the
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to me. MR. RYAN: You are answering
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organization here in Chicago known
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MR. RYAN: Let's talk about some oth
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of years? Fifi Buccieri? MR. SERPIC
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MR. SERPICO: No, I didn't. MR. RYAN
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quickly. MR. SERPICO: I'm sorry. AC
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now be in recess and we are going t
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these tapes were garnered. We asked
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SALVATORE AVELLINO: Well, maybe the
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eady to go to work. The union peopl
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favor now, first of all, he admits
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What does Avellino mean by "the env
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and then because eventually Tommy w
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words. manipulate it. RICHARD DeLUC
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the results of that study. With tha
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men of honor, the people in the mob
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Goldstock, on behalf of the Commiss
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trucking company? hurt. MR. HALL: M
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50 percent more people that they we
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essential for multi-employer funds
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Mr. Dorfman was killed on January 2
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the -- Whether it be approaching us
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COMMISSIONER MANUEL: For many years
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course of the Hoffa investigation.
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information and ask the Secretary o
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Mr. Methvi
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on our democratic fabric. The notio
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Preceding page blank APPENDIX STATE
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I would like to welcome you to this
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y trucking fabric to non-union shop
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CCNVERSATION #: 4 DATE TAPE NUMBER
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Corallo that a particular rebel car
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STA'I'EMENT SUBMITTED FOR THE RECOR
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with Mr. Dorfman which we had begun
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operators are able to answer the va
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The second cornerstone of the Civil
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As impressive as this litany of rac
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to the extent possible that the per
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us with investigating. Equally impo
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Commission Executive Director James
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CHICAGO Map shows areas where Vince
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Executive Director James Harmon and
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Robert E. Powell, retired First Vic
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Robert Cantazaro (left) was incarce
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Convicted racketeer Robert G. Boffa
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Samuel Solomon (foreground), accomp
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Commission investigator David Willi
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Robert Connerton (center), general
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Joseph "Doves" Aiuppa, second ranki
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Ronald Goldstock, Director of the N
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