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And then a couple of years l<strong>at</strong>er the guy who<br />

was in there, the direct<strong>or</strong> of personnel, he passed away<br />

and Gene brought me into the office to be direct<strong>or</strong> of<br />

personnel, and th<strong>at</strong> Was my st<strong>at</strong><strong>us</strong>.<br />

MR. HARMON: Now were the Boffa companies<br />

covered by a single n<strong>at</strong>ionwide lab<strong>or</strong> contract?<br />

MR. RISPO: When it came to the truck drivers,<br />

they were supposed to be covered by a master freight<br />

agreement across the country.<br />

Freight Agreement?<br />

MR. HARMON: Th<strong>at</strong> is the Teamsters Master<br />

MR. RISPO: Yes, eir, client agreement.<br />

MR. HARMON: Wh<strong>at</strong> happened to change the <strong>us</strong>e<br />

of the Master Freight Agreement?<br />

MR. RISPO: We would still <strong>us</strong>e the Master<br />

Freight Agreement in essence, but wh<strong>at</strong> we wou\d do is<br />

put wh<strong>at</strong> they call a white paper contract. And the<br />

local union would agree to <strong>this</strong> white paper contract.<br />

So th<strong>at</strong> if <strong>you</strong> look on the surface, <strong>you</strong> would see Team­<br />

sters Master Freight Agreement. So everything was<br />

right, <strong>you</strong> know, the guy was getting his proper money<br />

and stuff like th<strong>at</strong>. But if <strong>you</strong> looked on the back,<br />

then <strong>you</strong> would see th<strong>at</strong> we took away his clean-up time,<br />

we took away the road drivers radi<strong>us</strong>, we took away --

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