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we close up an operation, if this guy still wants to
work, if he still wants to drive Crown Cork and Seal'S
truck, like he might be making $6 an hour like there at
that particular installation, but if we go through the
trouble changing it over to Countrywide and all of this,
and moving it up the road, the added expense, we move it
up the road, he might lose a half dollar an hour. Plus
he loses seniority; he has no seniority, see. Nobody
that works for us has seniority. There is no seniority.
There is no master seniority list.
So basically the leasing company can put you
any place they want. We can refuse to take you. We can
take you. Whatever we want to do with you, we do.
MR. HARMON: Now did you ever personally meet
Sam Ancona from Kansas City?
Boffa.
MR. RISPO: I was in his company with Gene
MR. HARMON: Would you explain that, please?
MR. RISPO: Well, at various times when Gene
and I used to travel around the country and, you know,
I would be in different people's company. Sam was one
of them that I was in his company; that Gene was there
to do business with him, talk to him. He had business
to do with Sam and I would naturally sit in the