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to be a fact?
MR. RYAN: But it doesn't affect you as an
International vice-president of the Laborers' Union
that a person who spends thirty years in organized
crime indicated that Vincent Solano was the chief of
the rackets on the North Side of Chicago?
MR. SERPICO: I told you, unless I can find
out as fact. There are a lot of people going around
saying a lot of things about me, too, that are not true.
And as long as I don't know them as facts myself, no.
MR. RYAN: Let's talk about Mr. DeMonte. You
also know Mr. Frank "Babe" DeMonte, don't you?
MR. SERPICO: Yes.
MR. RYAN: Mr. DeMonte is also associated
with Laborers' Local 1, isn't he?
MR. SERPICO: I believe so.
MR. RYAN: Have you had business dealings with
Mr. DeMonte and Mr. Solano in the course of your affairs
as a Laborers' officer?
yes.
MR. SERPICO: Yes, as a Laborers' officer,
MR. RYAN: Does it trouble you that on Monday
this Commission received testimony that Mr. DeMonte is
also a member of La Cos a Nostra and in particular the