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EF SA EF SA EF SA EF SA TR SA EF SA EF SA Start talking Sal. Huh? PAGE 3 CONVERSATION # 9 Start talking (inaudible) Well you see the thing is it's gotta be if he's interested you heard what he said of course this all goes if I'm interested in what you're looking for, remember he kept saying what you're looking for, what you're, I'm not looking for this from a 75 dollar to a 60 dollar contract that's not that's immaterial what I'm 100king for because if what I'm looking for if we got it, it doesn't matter if we paid the hundred out if we were strong enough and more powertul enough that the customers look if you knew that the Town of Oyster Bay, Hempstead, ah, North Hempstead, isn't going to go out and take the fuckin' customers you don't, you, you give them a five dollar raise, you would more courage, maybe five might be eight. That's right So you would make back (inaudible) that payroll you don't care about that, because the truth of it is these men they need that, they need the work, I mean the salary, they need that there (inaudible) They really need that, do you follow me? (speaks Italian) I understood you very well. Now But, we gottahave to have the strength we gotta have, we have to have the strength, that when a fucker, Bob Morga comes along and bids 71 County fuckin' buildings that tomorrow he's ant four (4) gold tooths in front of him sayin. okay now that you've took all these buildings where's all th men? You've got to control the men that's the power. That's the power You gotta control the workers (inaudible) right now you control the employers Right, right now we as the Association we control the bosses right. Now when we control the men we control the bosses even better, now because they're even more fltckin afraid right
F A __ PAGE 4 CONVERSATION # 9 Sal please don't let my new walk backwards let them walk ahead Do you understand me, now when you got a guy that's steps out of line and this and that now you got the whip. You got the fuckin' whip. This is what he tells me all the time "a strong union makes money for everybody including the wise guys". This wise guys even make more money with a strong union True Because, because the envelopes could be bigger and better
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APRIL 24. III e ••••••
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The President's commission on organ
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Weill also present a case study of
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speoific circumstances with them, w
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MR. HARMON; Well, they were linked
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PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON ORGANIZED
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and the public for destructive and
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hundred locals are heavily influenc
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with nylon rope and repeatedly stab
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MR. ETO: Yes. MR. RYAN: The structu
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MR. RYAN: What office does he hold?
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not pay me -- if he did not pay me,
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MR. RYAN: Did you report to Vincent
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I told him that I pleaded stipulate
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9th did you receive a call from Joe
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cial? MR. ETO: Yes. I-iR. RYAN: Is
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witness. MR. HARMON: Mr. Chairman,
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eport to Vincent Solano, the presid
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1983, to compel the attendance and
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in his statement are virtually the
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charges of a Grand Jury investigati
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Local I in Chicago? same grounds. M
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same grounds. MR. RYAN: Are you fam
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the construction of the building an
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construction of a building from the
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equest that he not be required to t
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that would normally perform that fu
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something? COMMISSIONER METHVIN: Di
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consideration on the job site. that
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: The aftern
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member of the local, as a field rep
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So he asked me to go in and clean t
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worked until they was ready to drop
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epresentatives of the Laborers? MR.
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occurred in 1981 and Mr. Fosco was
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MR. FOSCO: General President of the
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I'lR. FOSCO: I exercise my rights u
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of the record. And you should advis
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MR. HARMON: Are you prepared, Mr. C
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Mr. Ryan will handle the questionin
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MR. RYAN: When you responded to thi
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other people there. A leader of the
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snapped open. Several TDU members w
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Hitt? MR. HITT: Yes, they did. MR.
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his client to exercise his constitu
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"Same answer." MR. QUILLEN: On the
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him. to organized crime? MR. HARMON
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Local l07? MR. RISPO: No, sir. MR.
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soma people in Philadelphia -- ther
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And then a couple of years later th
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Coca-Cola, Spiegel's, J.C. Penney s
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other words, whatever the drivers e
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said he would call Williams? MR. RI
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ackground when he was doing his bus
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corporations. during the mid '70s?
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I went down to the bar to talk to S
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company. The drivers -- basically w
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did enforce the contract, that hold
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So the guy lost everything. Now tha
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victed of homicide? MR. RISPO: You
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MR. RYAN: Very recently? MR. SOLOMO
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MR. SOLOMON: Yes. MR. RYAN: Were th
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period? MR. SOLOMON: Yes, sir. MR.
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figures as in the past? MR. SOLOMON
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: I guess --
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they should be provided 48 hours in
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or individuals involved in those en
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and'also with the investigation whi
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as a corporation to ensure that you
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MR. CLIMACO: Mr. Chairman, excuse m
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MR. PRESSER: Mr. Chairman, on the a
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Just a mom
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excused until tomorrow morning at 9
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Trustees unquestioningly paid milli
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Teamsters, was that a cost plus con
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: This morni
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MR. RYANI Mr. Schaffler, would you
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Lasky. Has he been convicted, Geral
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I have no doubt that we could have
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laws of the Department of Labor? Le
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ought out? MR. HARMON: Will Daniel
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labor union? MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes. M
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: Well, that wasn't n
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MR. HARMON: Every union has a right
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these companies were run by ex-law
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persons by the name of Ruben Gonzal
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: No, none at all. MR
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MR. CUNNINGHAM: Primarily, yes, in
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ACTING CHAIRMAN SKINNER: Seeing no
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MR. CONNERTON: I am the chairman of
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that law firm? firm. that law firm?
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MR. CONNERTON: That's correct. MR.
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pension fund or health and welfare
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therefore, was consistent with the
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MR. CONNERTON: Again, subject to an
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premiums paid for the coverage of t
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was about 300 pounds, nnd he put hi
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COMMISSIONER METHVIN: I think the v
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ule; that the union can provide rep
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MR. CONNERTON: That is correct, Mr.
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We'll hear testimony from the execu
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MR. WALSH: There was a dual situati
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member of La Cosa Nostra? DR. AIOSS
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figure, sir. I'm not sure of the ac
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MR. RYAN: And when you took the job
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MR. RYAN: Dr. Aiossa, is it also tr
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MR. RYAN: What did that projection
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operation, Mr. Cantazaro, with the
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surveillance from September 1974 un
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MR. RYAN: At approximately 11:15 a.
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e spoken to? MR. RYAN: Usually the
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to me. MR. RYAN: You are answering
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organization here in Chicago known
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MR. RYAN: Let's talk about some oth
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of years? Fifi Buccieri? MR. SERPIC
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MR. SERPICO: No, I didn't. MR. RYAN
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quickly. MR. SERPICO: I'm sorry. AC
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now be in recess and we are going t
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these tapes were garnered. We asked
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SALVATORE AVELLINO: Well, maybe the
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eady to go to work. The union peopl
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favor now, first of all, he admits
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What does Avellino mean by "the env
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and then because eventually Tommy w
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words. manipulate it. RICHARD DeLUC
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the results of that study. With tha
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men of honor, the people in the mob
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Goldstock, on behalf of the Commiss
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trucking company? hurt. MR. HALL: M
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50 percent more people that they we
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essential for multi-employer funds
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Mr. Dorfman was killed on January 2
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the -- Whether it be approaching us
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COMMISSIONER MANUEL: For many years
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course of the Hoffa investigation.
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As impressive as this litany of rac
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to the extent possible that the per
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us with investigating. Equally impo
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Commission Executive Director James
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CHICAGO Map shows areas where Vince
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Executive Director James Harmon and
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Robert E. Powell, retired First Vic
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Robert Cantazaro (left) was incarce
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Convicted racketeer Robert G. Boffa
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Samuel Solomon (foreground), accomp
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Commission investigator David Willi
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Robert Connerton (center), general
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Joseph "Doves" Aiuppa, second ranki
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Ronald Goldstock, Director of the N
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