04.04.2013 Views

progressivism, individualism, and the public ... - Telmarc Group

progressivism, individualism, and the public ... - Telmarc Group

progressivism, individualism, and the public ... - Telmarc Group

SHOW MORE
SHOW LESS

Create successful ePaper yourself

Turn your PDF publications into a flip-book with our unique Google optimized e-Paper software.

The <strong>Telmarc</strong> <strong>Group</strong><br />

PROGRESSIVISM, INDIVIDUALISM, AND THE PUBLIC<br />

INTELLECTUAL<br />

This is highly laudable but she seems to mean that in <strong>the</strong> context of certain strictures <strong>and</strong><br />

world views.<br />

3. Cervical Cancer Testing: The authors <strong>the</strong>n discuss a case as to whe<strong>the</strong>r an HMO<br />

should be made to pay for a patients perform tests on patients for cervical cancer which<br />

go beyond <strong>the</strong> st<strong>and</strong>ard Pap test. Here <strong>the</strong>y apply <strong>the</strong> principles of deliberative democracy<br />

to having a free <strong>and</strong> open discussion, including <strong>the</strong> HMO, to decide this issue. One may<br />

look at this in ano<strong>the</strong>r manner, namely if <strong>the</strong> test gives one more comfort, <strong>the</strong>n one may<br />

just pay for <strong>the</strong> test <strong>the</strong>mselves <strong>and</strong> not dem<strong>and</strong> that <strong>the</strong> HMO do so. Or better one may<br />

choose ano<strong>the</strong>r plan which may already pay for it. This argument for deliberative<br />

democracy is trumped by a simple economic rule: if something has perceived value to me<br />

<strong>the</strong>n I can <strong>and</strong> should pay for it. It is not one where I am owed something <strong>and</strong> if I just<br />

haggle long enough I will get it. Thus this third example is specious at best.<br />

It is interesting to see how <strong>the</strong> process of deliberative democracy did not apply to <strong>the</strong><br />

recent Health Care debate. At least with Iraq <strong>the</strong>re were confrontational hearings <strong>and</strong> an<br />

across <strong>the</strong> board vote with a large majority in favor. In Health Care it was near<br />

impossible to get <strong>the</strong> copy of <strong>the</strong> bill, it was discussed behind closed doors in an<br />

exclusionary manner, it was a much less democratic that any o<strong>the</strong>r such process <strong>and</strong> it<br />

will have a down <strong>the</strong> middle party vote. One could not think of a less deliberative<br />

democratic process. Yet those opposing it are almost always called traitors by <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

side <strong>and</strong> <strong>the</strong> attempt is to marginalize <strong>the</strong>m. One may <strong>the</strong>n ask, where are <strong>the</strong> Gutmanns<br />

<strong>and</strong> Thompsons on this issue, for here is a truly critical issue calling for deliberative<br />

democracy.<br />

As Young says in her critique of Gutmann <strong>and</strong> Thompson 186 :<br />

"It seems to me that advocates of deliberative democracy who believe that deliberative<br />

processes are <strong>the</strong> best way to conduct policies even under <strong>the</strong> conditions of structural<br />

inequality that characterized democracies today have no satisfactory response to this<br />

criticism. Many advocates of deliberative procedures seem to find no problem with<br />

structures <strong>and</strong> institutional constraints that limit policy alternatives in actual<br />

democracies, advocating reflective political reasoning within <strong>the</strong>m to counter irrational<br />

tendencies to reduce issues to sound bites <strong>and</strong> decisions to aggregate preferences. In<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir detailed discussion of <strong>the</strong> terms of welfare reform in Democracy <strong>and</strong><br />

Disagreement, for example, Amy Gutmann <strong>and</strong> Dennis Thompson appear to accept as<br />

given that policy action to respond to <strong>the</strong> needs of poor people must come in <strong>the</strong> form<br />

of poor support ra<strong>the</strong>r than changes in tax policy, <strong>the</strong> relation of private <strong>and</strong> <strong>public</strong><br />

investment, <strong>public</strong> works employment, <strong>and</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r more structural ways of undermining<br />

deprivation <strong>and</strong> income inequality. James Fishkin's innovative citizens' forum<br />

deliberating national issues in connection with <strong>the</strong> 1996 political campaign, to take<br />

186 Activist Challenges to Deliberative Democracy Author(s): Iris Marion Young Source: Political Theory, Vol. 29,<br />

No. 5 (Oct., 2001), pp. 670-690 Published by: Sage Publications, Inc.<br />

Page 184

Hooray! Your file is uploaded and ready to be published.

Saved successfully!

Ooh no, something went wrong!