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So those are the three main things. These are established facts. I don't think the<br />

scientific evidence is conclusive and those are the things we take into<br />

consideration when we try to apply the knowledge to the practical or operational<br />

situation. Any questions on that?<br />

People say, "Can you accumulate a debt for a year?" We don't know because<br />

those studies haven't been done. But there's no evidence whatsoever that says<br />

"No, it levels off," or "No, it changes." All the evidence says that you keep<br />

accumulating a debt as long as you keep losing sleep below your specific daily<br />

requirement. There's no evidence that you can change this. I suppose you<br />

could ski or play basketball as opposed to just sit in a hot room and that would<br />

make a little difference but that doesn't change your sleep requirement.<br />

Anybody got any questions?<br />

I've got a question. Napping: does that in any way alleviate the sleep debt?<br />

Let's say you have a 4O-hour sleep debt and you have a ten-minute nap. So now<br />

your sleep debt might be 39 hours and 50 minutes. lt wouldn't rnake any<br />

difference there. A lot of the napping is done after lunch. Most people, and<br />

especially younger people - and I don't know what the average age is in this<br />

group -<br />

but younger people have strong clock-dependent alerting late in the day.<br />

So you have sort of an illusion. You happen to take a nap just before the clock<br />

turns on. ls the alerting partly a result of the nap or not? Mostly not, but I would<br />

say until proven othenryise that a nap, if it is good sleep (which it usually isn't) is<br />

minute per_minute doing what sleep would do, but it's usually nowhere near the<br />

total añ'õffifttrat you require.<br />

Dr. Dement, I haae a list of questions tlnt pertain to our task of helpit:g to define flight<br />

time and duty time regulations and i.f I could just talce the liberty of asking these<br />

particular questions and open up the -floor.for nny otlrcr rentaining qurltons thnt other<br />

people may lut,e. One of the most basic tnsls is for us to ngree on n retLlntnrcndntion for ct<br />

sleeys opportunity,. . .. to afford euery reser?e pilot the opportunity of a ,-'rotected time<br />

period so that he or she is absolutely insulated from contact from ¡þs ¡"'7'=tator. Hott'<br />

many hours do yort recommend for a ntinimum fired sleeys opportunitv?<br />

I will start out by assuming that we would take 8 hours of sleep as the most<br />

common requirement. Then you need to add to that in order to be able to get the<br />

proper amount of sleep. ln your situation, I would think it would be a little larger<br />

than it might be for someone who really wasn't doing anything. Sc I'd add a<br />

couple of hours to get the proper amount of sleep.<br />

Are there anu.findings as far as the nntount o.f sleep /oss or the nhilitu :-' :leep during le:s<br />

tlrntt desirable times of the dnv nnd u'lt¡t n p¿rson coul,l erLtect?

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