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Well, there's an ideal time to sleep and then everything else is less than ideal.<br />

Sometimes it's devastatingly less than ideal.<br />

WeII, how much so? If you had an opportwtity to sleep during the dny and you were<br />

giuen an 9-hour sleep opportunity, could you expect to get I hours of sleep during that<br />

opportunity?<br />

No, I'd say absolutely not. lf that happened, it would be an incredible exception.<br />

There's a ton of evidence on that also.<br />

Hoza about if you were getting a L0 hour sleep opportunity?<br />

No, I don't think so. There have been a lot of studies on sleep reversal. You<br />

simply reverse the sleep period and this is now a model of insomnia. lf you have<br />

to sleep in the daytime, you have insomnia in effect. The ideal time to sleep if<br />

you have a stable circadian rhythm is to stay near the circadian rhythm.<br />

The t hours of ideal sleep, is it possible from your studies Vou can nail down any specific<br />

9-hour period or is it aariable for indittiduals?<br />

Well, it may vary a little bit. Within a very narrow range I wouldn't say....l would<br />

say for most people, it's from 1 1 - 12 PM to 7 - 8 AM. For the vast majority,<br />

that's the ideal sleep period. People will ask why they are the exception, but<br />

you're not dealing with exceptions here.<br />

- When you're forced to haae to slerp if you're flying at night and you're sleeping in the<br />

day, I guess what you're really saying is that the chances are you're going to become<br />

somewhat sleep depriaed oaer time.<br />

That's right.<br />

And so the only zoay you correct that, no mntter hozu much time you are getting to sleep,<br />

Vou're still going to be somsu,hat sleep deprioed. So the only zaay you're going to break<br />

tlnt cucle is periodicnlly if yott haoe a certain amount o-f tinte o-ff and you sleep during<br />

zuhnt núght be considered your nornnl sleep period to restore that.<br />

Well, at the present time that really is the only effective way. I think that we take<br />

the position that there's never an adjustment to that type of schedule. You<br />

refened to night duty...and you would think that if a person did it all the time they<br />

ought to adjust, ..but all the studies always show impairment in sleep loss.<br />

Dr. Dettrct7t, . . . ,L,e're really at the point nozt, ultere ue're goirtg lta¡ond the ¡:ltilosophy<br />

nnd it'e're tn¡ing to pttt our finger on rutmeric -aalues. Our pos;!ion nt lenst _front tlrc<br />

¡tilots' stañ¡toittt , is tlnt lL'e see tl:r need for n l}-hour sleqt oprlort unity hntt,ing thnt<br />

tlrc o¡t¡:ctrttmitq nmr¡ not nltt,nvs be nt tlrc best time of tlrc ,1.u¡. I\-e're.fncing nt intlustnr<br />

¡tositiott thnt is lookirtg.for I hours its tlrc mininnnn. Our positiort is ¡tredicntetJ on tlrc

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