Valentine's Day, Sunday, February 14, 2010 at 10:20 am

NotHitch:"Coll" or "col" (normally seen in my researches) is Italian for colla or "with the." Soharp with the flute, etc. In his later scores he usually uses the shorthand "col" than "coll."No, I do not have the autograph image of the "Prelude" to KOKR. But the image belowis my own personal research hand-copy of a small portion of that cue(violas/celli/contrabasses out of visual range here) that I worked on about 20 years ago ormore (probably more! :)The tonality is D min (D/F/A) and the 3 B-flat trumpets start off with that Line 2 D(written E since Herrmann transposes his scores) 8th note. Interesting he has a bit ofsyncopation there with the emphasis on the second or middle beat in 3/4 time with theharp and glock sounding sff the D half notes. But also an emphasis on the third beat withthe high woodwinds sounding rinforzando emphasis notes (also on high D). So this is noStrauss waltz prelude!{Image http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/358/img0003sm.jpghttp://img209.imageshack.us/img209/358/img0003sm.jpg_______________________________________________talkingherrmann mailing list********************************10-26-09:Talking Herrmann: Box 68 UCSB 'Joy in the Morning'Reply by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________Below are two images. The first is from the Prologue of Wagner's Gotterdammerung,page 73 of the Dover score. On my Solto Ring set (London label), it is located in CD # 1,track # 7 at the 1:43 point. Well, as I discussed in another post somewhere long ago, thissection of twelve or more bars (the 3/4 section in the image where all the instruments areplaying) was basically quoted by Herrmann in :The Hallway" cue of Joy in theMorning{i/}. I mean, he didn't quote it in an obvious or even conscious way, but themusic is remarkably similar if you get to compare both when you hear them side by side.So that second image below the Wagner piece is the Hallway cue.Maybe Kevin, say, or Bill S., has the audio for both the Wagner piece and the FSM cdof the Herrmann score. Then you can personally compare the pieces and tell us what you147