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http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2746/img0010pk.jpg_______________________________________________talkingherrmann mailing list********************11-9-09:Talking Herrmann: Herrmannesque CuesNew topic by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________The image below is my own personal research hand-copy of the Descent cue of B.Kaper's THEM!“The Descent” Reel 5 pt 2. Cue #35618. Agitato in 4/4 time signature. 1:58 duration(cue sheets). Compact disc location: start of track #9.This is perhaps one of the best, atmospheric cues in this score. It is one of my favorites,almost rather Herrmannesque. Scene: Ben, Robert Graham, and Pat Medford don theirgas masks and start to descend into the bowels of the mutant ant nest.Kaper was a highly imaginative, clever, intelligent composer. It is, however, a bitdifficult to describe his style since he adapted so well with each film. You will not find,for instance, an Auntie Mame sensibility or stylistic practices in Them and so forth.Herrmann had a distinctive and recognizable "voice" in practically any score he did, andso did Steiner, Tiomkin, Korngold, Goldsmith to large extent, Barry, and so forth. Kaperwas in a certain grouping that was not as popular or who had a cult following (asHerrmann and Steiner) but still had a Class A rating as a fine composer. THEM! has apretty solid cult standing, however, and Kaper's excellent music really contributes to theatmosphere. This particular cue is certainly one of "them" (atmospheric suspense moodmusic scenes). To me it is rather Herrmannesque in quality and I have always wonderedhow Herrmann would've treated this scene if he had the opportunity to score this film.But Kaper approached it wonderfully with his fast-moving measured tremolo strings thatdescend (and the woodwinds descend too as our three heroes descend deeper into thegiant ant hole).{Image http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9829/imgsk.jpghttp://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9829/imgsk.jpg___________________________________________________________________________________________________________talkingherrmann mailing list162
**********************Talking Herrmann: Herrmannesque CuesReply by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________The image below is my own research hand-copy of a small portion of "The Cloud" cuecomposed by Jerry Goldsmith for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Of course this is a veryfamous, revered cue always cited as being quite Herrmannesque in approach. I sometimeswonder if Goldsmith consciously or unconsciously was paying a not-so-subtle homage toHerrmann’s style here (perhaps his most sustained Herrmannesque cue). Nevertheless the"voice" is still clearly Goldsmithian. I think he was far more inventive and experimentalin his percussive effects than Herrmann, one of his enduring strengths, along with hisrhythmic varieties. The only problem is that I wonder if future generations can accuratelyreproduce those sounds with such unusual effects created by even now dated synthesizersand samples, etc?This cue starts off with the D min tonality (D/F/A) as the base triad but you caninterpret the D minMaj 7th (D/F/A/C#) or narrowly with the triplet 8th figures of D minto F# aug (F/A/C#).{Image http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/717/img0001al.jpghttp://img188.imageshack.us/img188/717/img0001al.jpg___________________________________________________________________________________________________________talkingherrmann mailing list*******************11-11-09:Talking Herrmann: Herrmannesque CuesReply by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________Well, "Jeff," I see that you escaped the last Topic thread (where I challenged you but youran out the door) and decided to be a pest here too. Just to remind readers of that otherthread:quote: Well, before you curse the darkness, "Jeff," with your apparent sarcasms, whydon't you constructively light a candle and tell us about YOUR researches of Herrmann's163
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FILM SCORE BLOGS [Blog # 41]Valenti
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marriage with Groucho was a joke?
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“Main Title” Cue #35885 Maestos
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"Maria's Room" Lento (mesto) in C."
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case the scene works better without
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