Valentine's Day, Sunday, February 14, 2010 at 10:20 am

As for self-borrowing on his part, I never really got into it. I noticed that his four-notealarm motif (made famous in Brainstorm) was used several times again in other of hisscores, it appears. That alarm or Fate motif is not all that removed from Beethoven's fournoteFate motif used famously in his 5th Symphony. Think about it. B's motif had such agenerational impact that it probably even influenced Horner (although obviously not anexact quote). I believe Max Steiner had four-note motifs for villains, but I'll check.I have however researched several of Horner's scores, two or three for Disney, and ofcourse Krull. I liked his Rocketeer. I am hoping Horner was going back to the excitementand power engendered in that movie and Krull in his new movie, Avatar. The FSMdiscussion board many times discussed Horner's borrowings from classical composers, Inoted. Some day maybe I'll try to substantiate that but so far I have better things to do!As for Herrmann, my recent research on the radio Hallmark Playhouse episodes he didin the early Fifties shows that he self-borrowed from that show--including the "Flirtation"theme he used in Beneath the 12 Mile Reef. Also material there was later used in TheKentuckian._______________________________________________talking herrmann mailing list****************************************Talking Herrmann: FILMUS-L IS NOW HISTORYNew topic by: Bill Wrobel______________________________________________________________________By "history" I mean gone, shut down, and not even available in archival form.https://listserv.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/wa-iub.exe?A0=FILMUS-LI was still able to access the archives (the above url) last evening but sometime todaythe administrators at Indiana U. pulled the plug. I believe it is possible the archives weresaved and given to H. Stephen Wright but I am not certain if he will make the archivesavailable again in another url format. I was alerted exactly a week ago about the demiseof Filmus-L on the Lukas Kendal FSM discussion board:http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=65565&forumID=1&archive=0I had already archived a fair number of interesting posts since it started March 1993 butdecided to do more saving of posts into my Microsoft Office WORD just in case theFilmus-L archives themselves would become unavailable soon after the stoppage of newposts a week ago. My hunch was right.Will this become the fate of Talking Herrmann some day??200