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NotHitch:Various sources say different subjective descriptions between the "C" and the "Bb"trumpets sound. I am not a trumpet player but you definitely are, so I would defer to yourexpertise and opinions on the matter.m In "The Technique of Orchestration" by Kent Kennan, he states, "Although not sowidely used as the Bb instrument, the C trumpet seems to find flavor with contemporarycomposers, many of whom write for it entirely. It is a bit more brilliant but its tone isgenerally not quite so rich..." Would you agree with that assessment, NotHitch?Other subjective opinions suggests that the C trumpet is "lighter" and "cleaner"sounding. Do you?It appears that most European orchestras, especially the French traditionally, tend towork with the C non-transposing trumpet, whereas American and I guess Canadiansprefer the Bb transposing one.I have a copy of the old "Brass Anthology" book, a Compendium of Articles from TheInstrumentalist On Playing the Brass Instruments. Only one article on the C trumpet (seethe image below) dated 54 years ago.{Image http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/584/imgkg.jpghttp://img208.imageshack.us/img208/584/imgkg.jpg_______________________________________________talkingherrmann mailing list***********************************Talking Herrmann: KITTY SHOT: 'Bad Man Shoots'Reply by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________Other colleague composers occasionally used C trumpets in scores besides Herrmann.One was Leonard Rosenman. The image below is my personal handwritten research copyof the "Last Judgment" episode of HGWT, specifically the "Paladin Shot" cue datedFebruary 1961. Not only were they C trumpets but muted as well (along with the otherbrass) to, I guess, help signify the tension of Paladin being gunshot.Jerry Goldsmith also occasionally used C trumpets. For example, in his "CBS Eye # 1"he utilized 3 C trumpets, 4 horns, 3 trombones, 2 tubas, and timp.168
You know, I've been trying to recall any instance when the great Max Steiner used Ctrumpets. So far I could not find any such instance! But I need to do a lot more looking.I'll also check out other composers that I've worked on, including Rozsa, Williams, etc.{Image http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2963/img0001es.jpghttp://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2963/img0001es.jpg_______________________________________________talkingherrmann mailing list*******************November 22, 2009:Talking Herrmann: hangover squareReply by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________Margherita Pirri (a prettier name than "TwisterNerve85"):Below is my personal research hand-copy of the "Netta's Death" cue from HangoverSquare Reel 6/1B. I could not scan the complete cue in one shot so I have two scans (withobvious overlaps).The Concerto cue is 59 pages in length, Molto appassionato in C time. Initialinstrumentation: 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets, bass clarinet, 2 bassoons, Contra bassoon,4 horns, 3 trumpets, 3 trombones, tuba, vibe, timps, piano, 12 violins I, 8 violins II, 6violas, 6 VC, 4 CB.{Image http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3668/imgmm.jpg{Image http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5696/img0001yv.jpghttp://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3668/imgmm.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5696/img0001yv.jpg_______________________________________________talkingherrmann mailing list********************************Talking Herrmann: hangover squareReply by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________TwistedNerve85 (shouldn't it be HangoverSquare85 ?):169
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FILM SCORE BLOGS [Blog # 41]Valenti
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I enjoyed watching The Fugitive but
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session but almost always left behi
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pages to UCSB. The person is Marcus
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triplet value 8ths down to (Bar 2)
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for $2.50 long ago (probably at the
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marriage with Groucho was a joke?
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I discuss this in my final Talking
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“Main Title” Cue #35885 Maestos
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on note B.Bars 13-14 = The ostinato
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whole notes. Timp trill (roll) on G
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sound). In Bar 12, notes F#-C#-F#,
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Bar 24 = Bis on E min again. Bass c
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Cmaj7#9 (C/E/G/B/D#), etc. Clarinet
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amongst them. Very interesting chas
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"Maria's Room" Lento (mesto) in C."
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Principal recording date was July 1
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to quarter notes as Hugo jokes abou
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whole notes D/G held fermata. Bass
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music "vira do minho" [unknown auth
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ut with notes D-Eb-E, F, Gb-Ab to (
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Bars 26-32 = The strings and organ
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minor 2nd inversion 8th note chord
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octave F up to small octave C 8ths
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hiding), Rune questions Frail. The
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on G note tied to next few bars. Th
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the beat and the cymbal sounds off
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[“Like what?!”] R6/5. Dramatic
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next bar in the same rest pattern.
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and violas play "rubato" quarter no
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case the scene works better without
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Reel 9/A "Judith Rejected". Deleted
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locations after all. These unaligne
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[Cue #3767] “Discovery of Well”
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First is John Barry's simple but ef
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different. But my guess is that the
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Universal-Revue Studios Television.
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