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Quote:quote: In your research have you been able to determine under what circumstancesHerrmann opted for a C over a B flat? I.e., what sort of effect he was trying to achieve?The effect he was trying to achieve when he switched to "C" trumpets, my researchcould not possibly know. One would have had to ask Herrmann that subjective judgmentcall. But my research can show where he used "C" trumpets. I need to spend time to memeticulous about all the instances, and I don't have time right now for that (!), but I cangive several examples.In the image below from the "Eye of the Beholder" episode of TZ, we see on top cueVII's "Declaration" cue--all of two bars! Not only does Herrmann use "C" trumpets inthis call but in this case he also uses "Hard" mutes. I can easily speculate why he used socalledhard mutes in this scene. The hallway monitor went on and the militaristic leadercomes on.{Image http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2119/imgspn.jpghttp://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2119/imgspn.jpgHerrmann used "C" trumpets consistently in Jason & the Argonauts except for the"Scherzo" cue when Jason and his doomed buddies fight the skeletons. There is he usedBb trumpets, but this is understandable because he self-borrowed it from his 1936Scherzo that of course had Bb trumpets, and he did not want to spend the extra effort tochange the notation!Herrmann used "C" trumpets in Taxi Driver and Garden of Evil and Hatful of Rainand Prince of Players and Three Worlds of Gulliver and Journey to the Center of theEarth and White Witch Doctor. I'll need to check for more. As far as I can tell so far, hisEarly Works are all Bb trumpets._______________________________________________talkingherrmann mailing list*************************Talking Herrmann: KITTY SHOT: 'Bad Man Shoots'Reply by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________Below is another example of "C" trumpets used in the oft-used CBS Fanfare thatHerrmann composed in 1960. Bar 4 was deleted in the final version. The tonality is Bar 1is C maj (C/E/G) to A min (A/C/E) to (Bar 2) C maj 7th (C/E/G/B) to A min/9(A/C/E/B). The fanfare ends on the exuberant E maj (E/G#/B) chord. There are actually166
six versions of the last two bars that Herrmann composed. Others had inversions of the Emajor chord; one ended in C major; one on F# maj (F#/A#/C#).{Image http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4038/img0001xa.jpghttp://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4038/img0001xa.jpg_______________________________________________talkingherrmann mailing list**********************************8Talking Herrmann: Herrmannesque CuesReply by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________quote: I think it probably takes quite a bit to get under the skin of the usually mildmanneredand unflappable Mr. Wrobel.As for "Oh, and Jeff Chandler is my real name. I was named after the movie star"...If that were the case, you'd be called Ira (and look absolutely darling in Esther Williams'scast-offs).Scratch:Thanks for the good belly laugh I got from your last comment!At any rate, no, "Jeff" did not get under my skin. I simply wanted to indirectly helpfacilitate seeing him put a noose over his own head--which he did--by running away frommy challenge. He "had better things to do" --yes, like continue being a pest and a drag,so to speak, on this Forum, by lowering the normal quality of contribution from posters.It is unfortunate that some people prefer to be clowns, and be stumbling blocks instead ofstepping-stones in life, but sometimes you have to reveal them as the fools they chose tobe. So be it. (By the way, Herrmann never suffered fools and routinely blow-torchedthem! : )Now I choose to consider him PNG as far as I'm concerned. Hope he changes hisways for the better (for his own good)..._______________________________________________talkingherrmann mailing list***********************************11-13-09:Talking Herrmann: KITTY SHOT: 'Bad Man Shoots'Reply by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________167
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FILM SCORE BLOGS [Blog # 41]Valenti
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session but almost always left behi
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pages to UCSB. The person is Marcus
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triplet value 8ths down to (Bar 2)
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for $2.50 long ago (probably at the
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marriage with Groucho was a joke?
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I discuss this in my final Talking
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“Main Title” Cue #35885 Maestos
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on note B.Bars 13-14 = The ostinato
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whole notes. Timp trill (roll) on G
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find 16th notes G#-A-B-C-D-E to 32n
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sound). In Bar 12, notes F#-C#-F#,
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Bar 24 = Bis on E min again. Bass c
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Cmaj7#9 (C/E/G/B/D#), etc. Clarinet
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amongst them. Very interesting chas
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"Maria's Room" Lento (mesto) in C."
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Principal recording date was July 1
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to quarter notes as Hugo jokes abou
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whole notes D/G held fermata. Bass
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music "vira do minho" [unknown auth
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Bars 26-32 = The strings and organ
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minor 2nd inversion 8th note chord
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octave F up to small octave C 8ths
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hiding), Rune questions Frail. The
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on G note tied to next few bars. Th
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the beat and the cymbal sounds off
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[“Like what?!”] R6/5. Dramatic
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starting on F minor by the violins
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Reel 5 pt 4 "Little Mama" Slow & Te
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next bar in the same rest pattern.
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D-F#-A-D-F#-A-D). The last note D (
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and violas play "rubato" quarter no
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case the scene works better without
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on the first two beats by the flute
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Reel 9/A "Judith Rejected". Deleted
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locations after all. These unaligne
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[Cue #3767] “Discovery of Well”
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First is John Barry's simple but ef
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different. But my guess is that the
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Universal-Revue Studios Television.
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-All cues # entries (whether 1 page
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