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Talking Herrmann: The John Player LectureReply by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________Steve:I vaguely recall from somebody (or I read it somewhere) that Herrmann gave a lectureat UCSB, and he talked (at least in part) about Ives. That's my recollection anyway, and itmay indeed be faulty. That's partially why I ordered the UCSB cds ahead of time of myresearch there several weeks ago, hoping it was material on Ives and other subjects.Apparently, however, it was the so-called John Player material. Screw-up somewhere bysomebody.At any rate, I just e-mailed David Seubert at UCSB for possible clarification on thelectures. If I recall, however, David mentioned to me that he never listened to thetapes/cds anyway but arranged to have a copy made for me for $30. So probably we needto have Chris Husted to hopefully clarify this confusion but I don't think he has everchimed in here at Talking Herrmann since he left the Herrmann Estate job. Too bad._______________________________________________talkingherrmann mailing list************************************Talking Herrmann: Herrmann Lecture at UCSB 1969Reply by: Bill Wrobel ()______________________________________________________________________Steve:I paid for two cds:A1720/R7--Dated on the sleeve 1/11/1969 "Lecture at UCSB tape 1" Time, 57:20A172`1/R7--Dated 2/11/1969 "Lecture at UCSB tape 2" Time, 55:00.Well, it is obviously a printing error on the sleeve of the first cd. Instead of 1/11/1969 itshould be 2/11/1969. Historically I do not know if indeed Herrmann was there giving alecture on 2/11/1969. The OAC url and excerpt below states Feb 11, so I can only assumethat date is correct. Moreover, the A1721 cd is a continuation (seque) of the exact samelecture as given in 1720. The cut off of the first cd is when Herrmann talks about the"singing" telephone wires he used for All That Money Can But (Devil & DanWebster). Then at the start of the second cd, Herrmann continues his discussion on themovie. Then he discusses DTESS. A film clip was show of it. Then a film clip of the Birdsequence from Mysterious Island. Then a long discussion (and clips shown) of PSYCHO.Then Fahrenheit 451. Then I believe ENDLESS NIGHT clip towards the end.174
Personally I was a bit disappointed with the "lecture" because a huge portion of the socalledlecture was actually the showing of many film segments from a lot of differentmovies, and that took up valuable time.At any rate, I assume that my two cds encompasses all four-line entries given in thatdata sheet I first scanned and provided above. However, if you look at the OAC entries,you see more perhaps more confusion involved:quote: February 11, 1969.item A1720/R7-A1721/R7,tape {TR# 8-9}Apparently that is what I have. But then the third entry is:quote: Bernard Herrmann lectures at UCSB.January 1, 1969.item A1722/R7 Radio Memorials.That is mysteriously dated January 1, 1969--a major holiday. School is closed on NewYear's Day. And what does "Radio Memorials" mean if it is also "UCSB lectures atUCSB" ??? Sloppy entries, bad documentation.Too bad Chris Husted is still not involved in the Herrmann Estate (or at least postinghere). Being there long-term at UCSB, he probably could have cleared up the confusionregarding these tapes. Martin Silver even more so but, alas, he passed away fairlyrecently.If David Seubert is reading this, perhaps HE can clear this all up....http://www.oac.cdlib.org/data/13030/jd/tf438nb3jd/files/tf438nb3jd.pdSubseries G: Lectures and InterviewsMay 25, 1968.item A1719/D12,tape {MT# 52}A Musical profile of Bernard Herrmann by Jack Henderson.February 11, 1969.item A1720/R7-A1721/R7,tape {TR# 8-9}Bernard Herrmann lectures at UCSB.January 1, 1969.item A1722/R7 Radio Memorials.175
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marriage with Groucho was a joke?
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