him, as much as I could... now I see that the others, whom I was <strong>to</strong> pay the money, they do not come overanymore. Now I am asking them, how I shall give them their money, these people keep silent. As far asI unders<strong>to</strong>od later, they made a lot of fuss there, on why they allowed us <strong>to</strong> go there. <strong>The</strong>n an old militaryperson brought me <strong>to</strong> the car, gave me my documents and said: “it is late, you should be careful”, sothis is how I came back, I didn’t even pay them. We came, entered the gorge. It was a huge gorge, steep,it was dark already and wild animals were running in front of us – a hare, a fox, these kinds of things,their eyes were glistening in the dark... Sometime later I see that the road is blocked, searchlights, floodlightswere set, pointing at us, and so they s<strong>to</strong>pped us in the middle of the gorge. Again, Mhair startedtelling at my side “Damn it! Too bad, <strong>to</strong>o bad”. I asked him “what is happening?” ... then suddenly theyopened both our rear doors, two soldiers sat in the car, with au<strong>to</strong>matic guns in their hands and, as faras I unders<strong>to</strong>od, they ordered him <strong>to</strong> drive. <strong>The</strong>y brought us, brought us, we reached Motki. We came,reached Motki, and climbed some high place... But I was absolutely calm, absolutely no tension... as if everythingwas normal... I remember having <strong>to</strong>ld Mhair not <strong>to</strong> fear, if these were soldiers, if they ask questions,he should give them all true answers. If they were the crowd, they could push us <strong>to</strong> a wall somewhere,tell “look, these are Armenian spies, they came here, we caught them, they refused <strong>to</strong> obey, so wewere forced <strong>to</strong> put it across.” (pauses for five seconds). So, they hoisted us, <strong>to</strong>ok us upstairs, it was nightthere already; they were playing backgammon, drinking tea, doing that kind of thing. <strong>The</strong>y accompaniedus, <strong>to</strong>ok us somewhere. Two people were sitting there. <strong>The</strong>y put me next <strong>to</strong> one of them, him – next<strong>to</strong> the other one. That other one was speaking Turkish, and mine was speaking English <strong>to</strong> me. He spokeEnglish very well; my English could never be compared <strong>to</strong> his. He asked me “who are you? What are youdoing here, in this area? What kind of scientific conference was it? What did you talk about at the conference?”I said, the conference was very specialized, and he said “never mind, tell it”. So, I <strong>to</strong>ld him.<strong>The</strong>n he asked “what were your people doing here?” I said, “<strong>The</strong>y were living here, their home was here,they lived here”. He asked “who left?” I said, “my father with his mother only, the rest did not leave.” Heasked, “what were they doing here?” I answered, “my father was a kid”. “<strong>The</strong>n, what was his mother doing?”I said, “what did the peasants do in the villages in the beginning of the century?” <strong>The</strong>n, finally, hesaid “Do you know that in the beginning of the century Armenians joined Russians here, they were fightingagainst Turks <strong>to</strong>gether”. ... I said, “I know everything”. He said, “do you also know about the eventsin Bitlis?” I said “yes, of course, I know about all the events”. “OK, he said, you can go”. <strong>The</strong>y accompaniedus, we sat in the car, and we went... So, we arrived in Moush. Before coming I planned that at least,I would visit the Sultan St. Karapet in Moush, so that I would stand on that land <strong>to</strong>o... Yes, later, when wecame, it was around morning already, Mhair’s wife was waiting for us. So we came, then, (pauses) – “OK,I said, well, I am leaving, I’ll be leaving in the morning... I am not going <strong>to</strong> visit any more places”. I waspacking up ... there were many presents in my suitcase. I remembered that, before coming here, when Iwas walking near the Vernisage in Yerevan, one of my friends brought a whole stack of beads, necklaces,rosaries and that kind of things, he brought them <strong>to</strong> me and said “listen, when you go <strong>to</strong> your village,give these <strong>to</strong> the people, one-by-one, when you go there, do not ask anything, just give everyone a presentand go”. I forgot these all, they were in my suitcase. I <strong>to</strong>ok them out, gave them <strong>to</strong> Mhair’s wife, andcognacs, I gave them <strong>to</strong> Mhair. <strong>The</strong>n Mhair’s wife went, brought a sweater and a shawl, she said, takethis... her husband was translating... she said “this is for your Khanum, take it, give it <strong>to</strong> your Khanum164
[Turk. wife]”. In the morning I <strong>to</strong>ok a bus and left. I was going <strong>to</strong> come from the Ani side. I was going <strong>to</strong>enter Ani, Erzurum... <strong>The</strong> bus was going <strong>to</strong> Erzurum. We came, reached that bridge; it was <strong>to</strong> turn there,so I s<strong>to</strong>pped the bus and got out. I <strong>to</strong>ld [<strong>to</strong> myself], “let him go <strong>to</strong> Erzurum, I will get a cab here, will go <strong>to</strong>Kars. Will go <strong>to</strong> Kars, and then <strong>to</strong> Ardahan”. So I <strong>to</strong>ok a cab, reached Kars. I had many plans in Kars – [<strong>to</strong>visit] Berd, Arakelots, there are lots of things in Kars. I did absolutely nothing, I found a car, a cab, <strong>to</strong>ldhim “take me <strong>to</strong> Ardahan”... I wasn’t able <strong>to</strong> do anything... at all...I wanted <strong>to</strong> go home; I only wanted <strong>to</strong>go home. I don’t know why, I only wanted <strong>to</strong> get <strong>to</strong> my house... I spent the night in Ardahan, in the morningI came <strong>to</strong> ... Akhalckha, Akhalkalak, and from there I came <strong>to</strong> Yerevan (a long pause...).I came here; I did not go <strong>to</strong> the village – Shgharshik – yet. But I had <strong>to</strong> go. I knew that everyone was waitingfor me. I had <strong>to</strong> go and tell them. Show them. I didn’t go, I don’t know why, I didn’t go. In a couple ofdays my elder brother came, asking “where are you, why didn’t you come?” So, we gathered our familiesand went <strong>to</strong> the village. Our procurements with us, all that we had, we went <strong>to</strong> the village. That water– naturally, I gave everyone this much (shows) – little-by-little, so that everyone gets a share). <strong>One</strong>thing impressed me very much in the village – in our village here, in Shgharshik. Well, they came, immediatelythey filled our house. I was telling them the s<strong>to</strong>ry, when I showed them the soil – “this is oursoil, a s<strong>to</strong>ne that I brought from our village” – there was a guy, by that time he was probably forty –someforty or fifty, he is already dead now... but, as soon as he saw the soil, immediately he <strong>to</strong>ok a pinch andput it in his mouth. I will never forget this, he <strong>to</strong>ok a pinch like this, and put it in his mouth... that soil,I distributed it among everyone...almost everyone, as much as I could, so that they could take it <strong>to</strong> theirgraves; the water, everybode who came drank it, then... Something interesting happened. ... <strong>The</strong>re, beforecoming back , as soon as I went <strong>to</strong> bed or dozed somewhere, my father was appearing in my dreamimmediately, always, always, all the time. In all my night dreams my father was there. But, as soon aswe <strong>to</strong>ok this soil, scattered it on his grave, when we performed that ceremony there, burned the incensethat was brought from there on my father’s grave and my brother’s grave... After this, I s<strong>to</strong>pped seeingmy father in my dream. <strong>The</strong>re was also another thing... again, from this sentimental domain. On ourway from Ankara <strong>to</strong> “Ergir”, <strong>to</strong> our home, I used <strong>to</strong> take a nap during the night. So once , I had a dream,like I was descending somewhere, then suddenly a large red bull attacked me. This was a huge red bull,it attacked me, and it simply raised me from the ground... <strong>The</strong> only thing I was thinking about ... I saidwell, I will hold its horns so that he doesn’t push me, doesn’t break my chest, everything else doesn’tmatter. So I was resisting, holding its horns like this and trying <strong>to</strong> resist. This lasted a pretty while ... Sothe bull seemed getting tired. It couldn’t gain the upper hand over me, so I said ... well, this thing, thisbull, it is unable <strong>to</strong>... so it is my turn now... So I applied some force, turned the bull upside down, it fell.Yes, it fell, and I s<strong>to</strong>od up on my feet, then I saw that my father was standing nearby, watching, with hishands behind his back, he was watching, standing over there. I <strong>to</strong>ld him “father, the bull was about <strong>to</strong>kill me, and you did nothing <strong>to</strong> help me. My father didn’t reply, he turned away, his hands still behindhis back; slowly... slowly he went away. <strong>The</strong>n I woke up... it was a dream.165
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ContentsForeword...................
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ForewordThe project “Adult Educat
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Aras, Yasin Aras, Welat Ay, Cenk Ce
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“Wish they hadn’t left”:The B
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ed by 1915 and where memories of Ar
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How to Come to Terms with Phantom P
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to the way he was raised: “They f
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empathize with Armenians: “My aun
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What if My Mother is Armenian?Ruhi
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with butter. We’ll serve the impo
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The time Salih and Gavrik are worki
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half for me.’ But what do our Mus
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