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4. Judiciary, the Government and the Legislature. The three should be independent so that when we are talking of 2/3 of he voting if for example in the parliament and wherever the 3 should be independent not the judiciary depending on the government. Or the legislative being a law and the other two are combined. Each one of them should do the job independently and should be made as a law like that. 5. Finally concerning the district. There are some few districts which were created some few years ago which are less than ten years old from when they were created. And here and there, I don’t want to mention specific you find the new created district is civil by the former that is you find the revenue you have had some people talking about the forest and like that you find even something like land (interjection) Com. Asiyo: Now what are you suggesting Samuel Bunei: I am suggesting that when a district is created it should be looked into by the time it is being created it should have all its revenue, it spends there and the one it sends to the main office in Nairobi should only go there not the former. That is I am mentioning this because there are some districts there revenue is going to the other one while it is a district on its own. So those are my points they are 5 of them. Thank you. Com. Asiyo: Thankyou very much I just want to correct one comment you made about the KFA and the KGGCU you talked about the Directors being transferred, because they messed upthe KFA and they were taken to another organization, for my info and if you read the newspapers of those days the KFA Director was never transferred to another place he was retired and the KGGCU (INTERJECTION) Samuel Bunei: Just a minute I respond to that one, I was quoting an example I was mentioning KFA because KFA changed to KGGCU and then back to KFA. KTC is now changing to KTC 2000 it is the same problem (interjection) Com. Asiyo:.. so they are the same directors but the name. Samuel Bunei:The people who are handling are the bosses are the ones who are messing up becaue they are being transferred. An example are the teachers also. You find the head teacher here messing up with Mumberech and he is taken to Timboroa so I want sucha a thing to stop. The law should be made. That everyone who mess public property should be taken in and should not hold any more offices. Com. Asiyo: Ok thankyou that point you have made very clearly lakini kuja. Weka sahihi pale Josphine Mutai, kama hayuko tunataka yule mama ya shule sasa basi tuko na Christopher Serem, akimaliza tutakuwa na Zakayo Mburu halafu William Chesire atakuja. Hebu sema majina yako yote. 72
Christopher Serem: Majina yangu ni Christopher Serem. Mimi nilikuwa nataka kuchangia kuhusu vijana. Mimi ni kijana na vile nimeonelea hii serikali yetu tukufu kuhusu vijana sisi tumewacha nyuma. Kuhusiana na hivyo mimi ninaona ya kwamba sisi vijana nikiwa moja wao nimeona ya kuwa vijana tumeachwa hata kama mimi nimetoa mfano kwangu mimi mwenyewe naweza toa mfano mwenyewe mimi nimetumikia seriklai kuanzia mwaka wa elfu moja na tisini na tisa nikiwa idara ya NYS, (interjection) Com.Asiyo: Unaweza kupendekeza vile ungependa tufanye? Christopher Serem: Eeh. Com. Asiyo: Tafadhali fanya hivyo. Christopher Serem: Nilikuwa nataka kupendekeza ya kuwa vijana kwa sababu tumepewa ujuzi wa kutosha, mimi niko na ujuzi ya kutosha, mimi nimefunzwa mafunzo ya kijeshi mimi naweza tumia silaha na nimejiendelesha kulingana na ile course nimechukua niko na ujuzi mbili; niko na ya kijeshi na niko na ile ya….(interjection) Com. Asiyo: Sasa tufanye namna gani? Christopher Serem: Serikali imeshidwa kutuajiri sisi. Com. Asiyo: Sasa tufanye namna gani? Tunataka kukusaidia. Christopher Serem: Tuunde tume ambaye inasimamia vijana. Eeh iundwe tume ya kusimamia vijana kulingana na kwa sababu vijana kama mimi nimefunzwa.. Com. Asiyo: Sasa hiyo umesema sasa eleza ingine. Christopher Serem: Maoni ya pili, ni kuhusu serikali na raia. Raia kweli hawafahamu raia ni nini. Unajua hivyo kweli? Wacha ni kuulize swali. Com. Asiyo: Aah usiulize sisi hatutaki kuulizwa kama raia hawajui serikali, utuambie unataka tutafanya nini ili wajue serikali. Christopher Serem: Wafunzwe wajue wasione ya kuwa tuko mbali na serikali. Com.Asiyo: Ok. Very good. Next point? Christopher Serem: That’s all. Com. Asiyo: Thank you very much Serem tutaona ya kwamba tutapendekeza hiyo mambo umeiasema mtu wa mwisho kwa karatasi hii ni Willam Chesire. Isipokuwa kama yule Councillor alikuja ingekuwa vizuri kama angekuja akaongea. Nimemuita sana ule councillor alikuwa anaitwa Nelson Bett sijui alipotelea wapi. Anakimbia tena anaenda jamani? Cllr. Bett please don’t go away we have been waiting for you all this time and now you are abandoning us here along na watu wanatoloka na tumemaliza karibu. Wapi ule nimemuita aje aongee? Bw. Chesire yuko? Cllr. Please don’t go how can you abandon us? Cllr. Bett: Nilikuwa na sindikiza watu. Com. Asiyo: Now you can talk. 73
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CONSTITUTION OF KENYA REVIEW COMMIS
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tononondos eng barabara, obwa kiro
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mjue kwamba katika Afrika mzima, ha
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Com. Ayonga: Councillor, umetuambia
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ataangalie ile constitution ya kila
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