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Non-Normative Gender and Sexual Identities in Schools: - Schools Out

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AM: Right<br />

SS: That I’m aware of. The first year Paul was <strong>in</strong>terviewed by just about every BBC<br />

Regional programme<br />

AM: {right}<br />

SS: …round the country [//] I th<strong>in</strong>k its gett<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>to people’s psyches I’m certa<strong>in</strong>ly at the<br />

Royal Courts of Justice the audience, we had about 400 people there <strong>and</strong> they were by no<br />

means all LGBT people I mean I’m I’m beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g to f<strong>in</strong>d ways of gett<strong>in</strong>g um what I<br />

would call the professional equality sector people <strong>and</strong> <strong>in</strong>vit<strong>in</strong>g them to events <strong>and</strong> gett<strong>in</strong>g<br />

them to th<strong>in</strong>k about it <strong>and</strong> all the rest of it. Um <strong>and</strong> the whole professionalisation of<br />

equality is <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g <strong>and</strong> sometimes <strong>in</strong>credibly pa<strong>in</strong>ful. I mean I can go to meet<strong>in</strong>g<br />

where there are local authorities equalities people <strong>and</strong> you know they’ll talk about LGBT<br />

issues <strong>and</strong> you can see you know that there knowledge is paper th<strong>in</strong> <strong>and</strong> sometimes they<br />

don’t even know what LGBT st<strong>and</strong>s for so you sort k<strong>in</strong>d of want to weep. We clearly<br />

need, it seems to be that we’ve got you know two more years [//] cos my fear is that the<br />

chances of Labour gett<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> aga<strong>in</strong> are negligible…<br />

AM: {yes}<br />

SS: …<strong>and</strong> it’s not the best Government <strong>in</strong> the world but certa<strong>in</strong>ly one would prefer them<br />

to the Tories…<br />

AM: {my op<strong>in</strong>ion at the moment as well<br />

SS: …yes. If, I th<strong>in</strong>k what happens with the S<strong>in</strong>gle Equality Policy, I mean I was at a<br />

conference on Monday <strong>and</strong> Harriet Harman was talk<strong>in</strong>g about it <strong>and</strong> there were th<strong>in</strong>gs I<br />

felt good about <strong>and</strong> other th<strong>in</strong>gs I felt shattered about. It looks like we are go<strong>in</strong>g to lose<br />

equality impact assessment which I th<strong>in</strong>k is such a big mistake…<br />

AM: {right}<br />

SS: …um so I th<strong>in</strong>k we’ve got two more years to sort of, get <strong>in</strong> there <strong>and</strong> then goodness<br />

alone knows. What will be very <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g to see is what Boris does, obviously <strong>in</strong><br />

London.<br />

AM: Yeah.<br />

SS: Um [//] <strong>and</strong> he’s got a gay deputy.<br />

AM: He has, I didn’t know that.<br />

SS: Yeah Richard Barnes is a gay man, but who’s never suffered homophobia (said with<br />

sarcasm)<br />

AM: Oh!<br />

SS: The fact that he’s white, you know, middle class (sigh) hasn’t really clocked, anyway

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