Non-Normative Gender and Sexual Identities in Schools: - Schools Out

are still um you know all over the place, I mean you’ve seen the case study on the LGBT
History Month website with Ellie, which is stunning the work that she’s done, um and
other schools have done great stuff but then don’t want to be named which is kind of
frightening…
AM: {yes}
SS: …[//] given that the DCSF have now produced this guidance, and it is only guidance
which is an outrage, um we’re meeting with Brennan, well I’m not, im gonna send Tony
cos I think I might just bite Brennan’s head off! Greif has affected my anger massivly.
AM: Oh right I’m not surprised I can sympathise with that one.
SS: Yes. Um so I think it’s probably better if Tony goes and you know it skills him up to
deal with these situations…
AM: {yes}
SS: …cos normally I do it or Paul would have done it, so we’ve gotta start sending the
skills down. Um [//] so it’ll be interesting to see if Balls is prepared to to to do the notch.
But I am saying you know the fifth year should be education, you should be up there and
proud, the criminal Justice System has more than proved its worth around this issue…
AM: {yeah}
SS: …and you know it is your issue, if we don’t tackle homophobia and transphobia and
heteronormativty in schools you know the rest of the communities suffer forever.
AM: Yep.
SS: So, you know deal with it.
AM: I think that leads us on very well, because that’s one of the main points that I’m
looking at in my research that, I’ll be honest I wasn’t particularly that interested in
education at first, at least I didn’t think I was…
SS: {yeah}
AM: …until I started thinking well what I interested in doing and it all came back to
education, it’s the old education, education, education…
SS: {yes}
AM: …um and I realised as you just said if these issues aren’t addressed at that level then
this…
SS: {well its like racism}