Non-Normative Gender and Sexual Identities in Schools: - Schools Out

AM: {that’s a really good point yeah}
SS: …cos you can’t just talk about the LGBT experience. There’s four experiences there
before you start. And then there’s ethnicity, you know class, weight, spectacles…
AM: {Yeah}
SS: …you know everything else. You come in to a whole range of difference and I think
one of the complexities is that when we look at porosity of um service provision from our
young LGBT people generally you know where are the LGBT youth groups.
AM: Yeah.
SS: And then how well are they in actually dealing with things like you know different
religions [//] ethnicities, disabilities etc.
AM: Yeah and I…
SS: {I mean that’s a really crucial area that you know [//] we use these words LGBT as if
that’s you know straight forward, its not. You know there’s a whole lot more to to be
dealt with there so that the complexity of the diversity of our community really needs to
be tackled and discussed because its not available to kids when you talk about LGBT they
will only talk about white able bodies young men.
AM: Yeah. Definitely, yeah that’s vital. And I have to say that even though I recognise
all that, the fact that I haven’t explicitly asked you a question about that shows that even
somebody researching is is guilty of sometimes, even if subconsciously just having the
four identities, LGBT, and not explicitly recognising that within each of those identities
there’s differences and you know even across the four you can be T and you can be G,
you know…
SS: {that’s right}
AM: …Or you could T and you could be straight, or T and B, so there’s so many
different complexities, so yes than you very much for pointing that out. And the section
28 one really, its just legacies. Obviously it’s gone now, um supposedly, you know
legally it’s gone…
SS: {umm}
AM: …but what do you think are the legacies and how…
SS: {I think the legacy is massive. Cos I think that, and I think it’s I think what’s
interesting is, I think it’ had a very powerful affect I think not just on LGBT issues [//] I
think it goes back to what we were saying before about teachers not always being very
confident in what they can and cant say.
AM: Yep.